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Re: [Spridgets] Automatic transmission

To: <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Automatic transmission
From: "Chris King" <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:52:25 -0700
Looks separate, but I don't know if the C3 and the Type 9 share the same
bolt pattern.
 
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/wiki/images/f/fb/Ford-transID01.jpg
 
-=Chris

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                 From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com
[WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com]
Sent: 9/1/2010 12:18:28 PM
To: cbking@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: peter@nosimport.com;mdrowe@optonline.net;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Automatic transmission 


Yep, anything that had a Type 9 will have had the Ford auto box though
the problem will still be getting a flex plate for the crank.  I'll bet
it's cheaper to swap a 1500 Triumph/MG 1300/1500 engine and auto box
complete than have a bespoke crank made.
 
Also, does the Ford Auto have an integral bellhousing?  I ask this
because the kits for the Ford Type 9 box are generally based on a hybrid
bellhousing.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 01/09/2010 16:31:26 GMT Daylight Time,
cbking@alum.rpi.edu writes:

        
        According to Wikipedia, the Merkur XR4Ti (the Ford Sirerra sold
in the US market) used Ford's C3:
         
        "The XR4Ti was distinguished mechanically by its turbocharged
<http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Turbocharger>  Ford Lima
<http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Ford_Pinto_engine#2.3_OHC>  2.3 L
4-cylinder <http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Straight-4>  SOHC engine and
independent rear suspension, and stylistically by its large bi-plane
spoiler (replaced in later years with a single rear spoiler). It came
with either the C3 <http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Ford_C3_transmission>
3-speed automatic transmission
<http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Automatic_transmission>  or the Ford Type
9 <http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Type_9> , 5-speed manual transmission
<http://mail.alum.rpi.edu/wiki/Manual_transmission> ."
         
        I'd expect C3s are easy to find, used Pintos and early (pre-86)
Fox bodies (Mustang, Fairmont, etc) behind the 2.3L 4.
         
        You might also be able to use an AL4D, which is the OD
replacement for the C3. Used in 4 cyl Mustangs and T-birds, and the
Ranger based trucks (incl. BroncoII, Explorer, and Aerostar). 
         
        Good luck.
         
        -=Chris
        
        Chris King
        http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

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Sent: 9/1/2010 10:21:02 AM
To: peter@nosimport.com;mdrowe@optonline.net;spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Automatic transmission 

I wil be the Ford type nine I expect. The problem will be getting a 
torque converter to fit the end of the crank won't it?? 

In a message dated 01/09/2010 14:54:02 GMT Daylight Time, 
peter@nosimport.com writes: 

Moss has a 5 speed kit available. Call them to find out what 5 speed 
they use... say some sort of Ford lump, then find the automatic from 
the same model car. Maybe the adapter bit from Moss, or their 
supplier, will allow the AT to bolt up. 

Or, just put in a Volvo B18 engine with the BWT35 AT, as was done in 
decades past. 
Peter C 
=== 
At 10:25 PM 8/31/2010, Michael Rowe wrote: 
>My mechanic/tutor has a commission to put an automatic transmission 
>in an MG TD. This old lady has driven the car since she was 16, and 
>wants to continue without dealing with a clutch on the many steep 
>hills she must navigate. Any small RWD engine with an automatic 
>transmission will do; she does not care. 
> 
>Any thoughts on what he might actually be able to find in reasonable 
>condition? Where? 
> 
>Michael Rowe 
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