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OK for the 2 stroke engines I'm going to first purchase the electric
adapter to the weedwacker which should help my arm (should have just bought
the elect weed wacker to begin with). Then I'll try 4d40 as mentioned after
the 20th pull on the chain saw if that doesn't work I'm going to kill the
rubber parts with ether. I love how the ether (starting fluid) works but I
totally understand how it would dry out the diaphragms I now know why my 10
yr old lawn mower diaphragm dried out but I have no problem starting it
with the new air filter off and push the gas prime bubble a lot more then
4x and she starts. I think I need to understand small engines a bit more to
properly care for them because they shouldn't require 20 or more pulls to
start do they? Both the weedwacker and chainsaw were new when I purchased
them and both a PITA to start. As I recall they get more difficult to start
between use such as weeks, maybe I need to contact the manufacturer to
properly store them but I do recall multiple posts regarding the fail to
start on the saw and it's American which doesn't mean made in America.
Looking at the genny instructions I pull the choke leaver out then pull I
tried that yesterday and 5 pulls no start then again ether and starts. I'm
disgusted that I have to do that each time.
Lin
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Cebridge <60bugeye@cebridge.net> wrote:
> Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!!
> Have seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it. Ever seen the
> head studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in
> half !!
> Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it. Just my
> mileage lol
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.
> That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff. It does work in
> two-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can
> get away with. Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are
> lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Spridget Professors,
> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I
> remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two
> before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was
> technically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical
> questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at
> ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom
> with brilliant instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>
> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready
> for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or
> family with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my
> youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again
> after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later
> in the week.
>
> Special thanks to:
>
> Rick
> Kevin
> Trevor
> Guy
> Hal
> Peter
> John
> Billy
>
> Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,
> Linda : )
>
> PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up using
> starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke
> engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my
> chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or
> two.
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>> Woohoo! Glad you got it going. Hope the storm leaves you alone and you
>> don't need it. :-)
>>
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> She runs.....Yippi.
>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting
>> fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it
>> must have reached it and she fired right up.
>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me
>> there as always I love you guys!
>> Stay safe and warm.
>> Linda
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I vote with Hal. You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it
>>> goes bad. Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for
>>> repair. The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh. Everything was
>>> fine. Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad
>>> gasoline. I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I
>>>> added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs
>>>> with year old gas.
>>>> I really wish I got a genny with elect start.
>>>> Off I go.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lin,
>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and
>>>>> replace with fresh! Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite
>>>>> unusable.
>>>>> I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....
>>>>> Hal
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">OK for the 2 stroke engines I'm going to first purchas=
e the electric adapter to the weedwacker which should help my arm (should h=
ave just bought the elect weed wacker to begin with). Then I'll try 4d4=
0 as mentioned after the 20th pull on the chain saw if that doesn't wor=
k I'm going to kill the rubber parts with ether. I love how the ether (=
starting fluid) works but I totally understand how it would dry out the dia=
phragms I now know why my 10 yr old lawn mower diaphragm dried out but I ha=
ve no problem starting it with the new air filter off and push the gas prim=
e bubble a lot more then 4x and she starts. I think I need to understand sm=
all engines a bit more to properly care for them because they shouldn't=
require 20 or more pulls to start do they? Both the weedwacker and chainsa=
w were new when I purchased them and both a PITA to start. As I recall they=
get more difficult to start between use such as weeks, maybe I need to con=
tact the manufacturer to properly store them but I do recall multiple posts=
regarding the fail to start on the saw and it's American which doesn&#=
39;t mean made in America.<div><br></div><div>Looking at the genny instruct=
ions I pull the choke leaver out then pull I tried that yesterday and 5 pul=
ls no start then again ether and starts. I'm disgusted that I have to d=
o that each time.</div><div>Lin=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Cebridge =
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:60bugeye@cebridge.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">60bugeye@cebridge.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be =
in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned into junk =
because of it.=C2=A0 Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the block of a =
diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!=C2=A0</div><div>Ill always opt fo=
r gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.=C2=A0 Just my mileage lol</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div><br>On =
Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most starting fluid=
is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.=C2=A0 That's why=
a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.=C2=A0 It does work in two-stroke=
engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can get away w=
ith.=C2=A0 Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are lubed by =
the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><br>Sent fr=
om my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner =
<<a href=3D"mailto:grunthaner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">grunthaner@gm=
ail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for all the he=
lp, you guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when we went =
to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that besides bein=
g sad that my father passed away I was technically lost not knowing where t=
o get good answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this list and=
Frank's genius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I feel lik=
e I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that made the=
class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-18" a=
nd no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both myself and m=
y neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with there pets t=
hat will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the genny runni=
ng but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I shovel the sn=
ow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div>Rick</di=
v><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor=C2=A0</div><div>Guy</div><div>Hal=C2=A0</div>=
<div>Peter=C2=A0</div><div>John=C2=A0</div><div>Billy</div><div><br></div><=
div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda : )</div><=
div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I fina=
lly end up using starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it=
in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My wee=
d wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitt=
ing a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:refisk@chartermi.net"; target=3D"_blank">refisk@charte=
rmi.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div>Woohoo!=C2=A0 Glad you got it going.=C2=A0 Hope the storm leave=
s you alone and you don't need it. =C2=A0:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboa=
rd</div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner vi=
a Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both =
plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't =
start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached=
it and she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It's=
this list with great guys that got me there as always I love you guys!</di=
v><div>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Heale=
yRick <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can't leave n=
ew gas in the tank for long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar =
problem with a chain saw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was d=
rained and replaced with fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engi=
ne guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I&#=
39;d try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 =
PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:=
spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>>=
;</span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I ad=
ded 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs wi=
th year old gas.<div>I really wish I got a genny with elect start.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div>Off I go.</div></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via =
Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"=
target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<=
br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and re=
place with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite unu=
sable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you switch to an alternator...=
..<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div><div><br><=
br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div></div></=
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