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Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diesel. Back in the day I
worked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rented trucks. We used to get
semis back with blown engines. The drivers would use the onboard cold
weather starting system (ether injection) to boost power when going up
long, steep hills. It is kind of like using NOX for a second too long!
Bang, you broke it...
The second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it
washes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to
occur. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored)
whereby the compression leaks out into the crankcase.
Today's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find gas
with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experience
so many starting/running issues.
My 02,
Kent
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Ether ( starting fluid) should not even be in a car persons vocabulary!!
> Have seen soooo many motors turned into junk because of it. Ever seen the
> head studs ripped out of the block of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in
> half !!
> Ill always opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it. Just my
> mileage lol
>
> Leo
>
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Most starting fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.
> That's why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff. It does work in
> two-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can
> get away with. Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are
> lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Spridget Professors,
> Thanks so much again for all the help, you guys are so important to me. I
> remember telling Frank when we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two
> before he left us that besides being sad that my father passed away I was
> technically lost not knowing where to get good answers to my technical
> questions. But you guys on this list and Frank's genius put my mind at
> ease. With threads like these I feel like I just walked out of a classroom
> with brilliant instructors that made the class the best class ever.
>
> Snow was 12"-18" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready
> for both myself and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or
> family with there pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my
> youtube of the genny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again
> after I shovel the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later
> in the week.
>
> Special thanks to:
>
> Rick
> Kevin
> Trevor
> Guy
> Hal
> Peter
> John
> Billy
>
> Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,
> Linda : )
>
> PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ever I finally end up using
> starting fluid most engines fire right up and can I use it in a 2 stroke
> engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixture. My weed wacker and my
> chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started after sitting a week or
> two.
>
> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>> Woohoo! Glad you got it going. Hope the storm leaves you alone and you
>> don't need it. :-)
>>
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> She runs.....Yippi.
>> I got spark with both plugs and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting
>> fluid and didn't start, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it
>> must have reached it and she fired right up.
>> Thank you all for your help. It's this list with great guys that got me
>> there as always I love you guys!
>> Stay safe and warm.
>> Linda
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I vote with Hal. You can't leave new gas in the tank for long before it
>>> goes bad. Friend had a similar problem with a chain saw and took it in for
>>> repair. The old gas was drained and replaced with fresh. Everything was
>>> fine. Small engine guy told him most of his repairs now were fixing bad
>>> gasoline. I'd try draining all the old stuff, not just some of it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would hate to drain 6 gallons of gas it would take a long time. I
>>>> added 2 gallons to the 4 that I started with. My little Sprite always runs
>>>> with year old gas.
>>>> I really wish I got a genny with elect start.
>>>> Off I go.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lin,
>>>>> If there is any of the old petrol left in the tank drain it and
>>>>> replace with fresh! Modern fuels will absorb water and become quite
>>>>> unusable.
>>>>> I also recommend that you switch to an alternator.....
>>>>> Hal
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Two points to ponder... The first is ether in a diese=
l.=C2=A0Back in the day I worked for Avis Truck Division and we leased/rent=
ed trucks. We used to get semis back with blown engines. The drivers would =
use the onboard=C2=A0cold weather starting system=C2=A0(ether injection) to=
boost power when going up long, steep hills. It is kind of like using NOX =
for a second too long! Bang, you broke it...</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>The=
second is using ether to start a 2 stroke motor. Bad choice because it was=
hes the oil off the cylinders and can make it possible for scoring to occur=
. The rings dig into the cylinder wall and leave a groove (scored) whereby =
the compression leaks out into the crankcase.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>To=
day's pump gas degrades much faster than ever before. If you can find g=
as with no ethanol, use that in your small engines and you will not experie=
nce so many starting/running issues.</div><div>=C2=A0</div><div>My 02,</div=
><div>=C2=A0</div><div>Kent</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Cebridge via Spridge=
ts <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Ether ( starting fluid) should not=
even be in a car persons vocabulary!! Have seen soooo many motors turned i=
nto junk because of it.=C2=A0 Ever seen the head studs ripped out of the bl=
ock of a diesel engine or a rod snapped in half !!=C2=A0</div><div>Ill alwa=
ys opt for gasoline vapors off of a rag with gas on it.=C2=A0 Just my milea=
ge lol</div><div><br></div><div>Leo<br><br></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><di=
v><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <<a href=3D"=
mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>Most start=
ing fluid is ether, which is a LOT more volatile than gasoline.=C2=A0 That&=
#39;s why a balky engine will fire up on the stuff.=C2=A0 It does work in t=
wo-stroke engines, but in any engine only use the smallest amount you can g=
et away with.=C2=A0 Be especially careful with the two-strokes as they are =
lubed by the fuel-oil mixture and starting fluid washes the oil away.<br><b=
r>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Jan 27, 2015, at 9:24 AM, Linda Gr=
unthaner <<a href=3D"mailto:grunthaner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">grun=
thaner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Spridget Professors,</div>Thanks so much again for a=
ll the help, you guys are so important to me. I remember telling Frank when=
we went to pick up my Bugeye only a year or two before he left us that bes=
ides being sad that my father passed away I was technically lost not knowin=
g where to get good answers to my technical questions. But you guys on this=
list and Frank's genius put my mind at ease. With threads like these I=
feel like I just walked out of a classroom with brilliant instructors that=
made the class the best class ever.<div><br></div><div>Snow was 12"-1=
8" and no need for the genny but so happy I have it ready for both mys=
elf and my neighbor and her 2 small boys and any friends or family with the=
re pets that will come over if needed. I tried to post my youtube of the ge=
nny running but forgot my youtube password. I'll try again after I shov=
el the snow as it will freeze tonight and some more snow later in the week.=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Special thanks to:</div><div><br></div><div=
>Rick</div><div>Kevin</div><div>Trevor=C2=A0</div><div>Guy</div><div>Hal=C2=
=A0</div><div>Peter=C2=A0</div><div>John=C2=A0</div><div>Billy</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Happy Spridgeting, and thank you Professors,</div><div>Linda :=
)</div><div><br></div><div>PS If anyone can tell me why is it that when ev=
er I finally end up using starting fluid most engines fire right up and can=
I use it in a 2 stroke engine carburetor being they use oil and gas mixtur=
e. My weed wacker and my chain saw kill me arm trying to get them started a=
fter sitting a week or two.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Rick Fisk <span dir=
=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:refisk@chartermi.net"; target=3D"_blank">refi=
sk@chartermi.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(2=
04,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"auto=
"><div>Woohoo!=C2=A0 Glad you got it going.=C2=A0 Hope the storm leaves you=
alone and you don't need it. =C2=A0:-)<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</d=
iv><div><div><div><br>On Jan 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Linda Grunthaner via Spr=
idgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">She runs.....Yippi.<div>I got spark with both plugs=
and it didn't start then I sprayed Starting fluid and didn't start=
, then I put the spray hose way into the carb and it must have reached it a=
nd she fired right up.</div><div>Thank you all for your help. It's this=
list with great guys that got me there as always I love you guys!</div><di=
v>Stay safe and warm.</div><div>Linda</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:13 PM, HealeyRick=
<span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">healeyrik@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-col=
or:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I vote with Hal.=C2=A0 You can't leave new gas in the tank for=
long before it goes bad.=C2=A0 Friend had a similar problem with a chain s=
aw and took it in for repair.=C2=A0 The old gas was drained and replaced wi=
th fresh.=C2=A0 Everything was fine.=C2=A0 Small engine guy told him most o=
f his repairs now were fixing bad gasoline.=C2=A0 I'd try draining all =
the old stuff, not just some of it.<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Linda Grunthaner v=
ia Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></s=
pan><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;pad=
ding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;bord=
er-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"ltr">I would hate to drain 6 gallons=
of gas it would take a long time. I added 2 gallons to the 4 that I starte=
d with. My little Sprite always runs with year old gas.<div>I really wish I=
got a genny with elect start.=C2=A0</div><div>Off I go.</div></div></span>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><span>On Mon, Jan=
26, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.t=
eam.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204=
,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><span><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div><div>Lin,<br></div>If there is any of the old petrol left in=
the tank drain it and replace with fresh!=C2=A0 Modern fuels will absorb w=
ater and become quite unusable.=C2=A0 <br></div>I also recommend that you s=
witch to an alternator.....<br></div>Hal<br></div></span><div class=3D"gmai=
l_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204=
,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir=3D"auto"><div=
><div><br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></d=
iv></div></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><span><span></sp=
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