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Re: [Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question

To: Andrew Hardie <andrew_hardie@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 995 Huffaker race engine question
From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:35:51 -0400
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You had to supply your own cellophane with Paul's kit.  Cigarette pack cello=
phane.  :-)

> On Mar 30, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Hardie <andrew_hardie@telus.net> wrote=
:
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> The Paul A kit really wasn't a kit. Just some detailed instructions, a 1/8=
" drill, some cellophane and JB Weld and the requirement for a steady hand a=
nd a good eye.
>=20
> Gerard has "fine tuned" the rear seal kit offered by other vendors by keep=
ing a gallery in his replacement eyebrow piece, unlike the "other guys". The=
 eyebrow piece still needs to be accurately placed with even clearance all a=
round.=20
> Paul's JB Weld trick worked well in theory, but could only ever be as good=
 as the hands doing the very finicky work.
> An even clearance of .0015 to .003 is the key whatever method you use, and=
 whether or not you then add a seal kit.
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> Andy
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:
>>=20
>> Don't think anyone is doing the Paul A. kit anymore.  Gerard has a very n=
ice rear seal kit that actually uses a seal.  I haven't tried one, but it's s=
upposed to be very good.=20
>>=20
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>=20
>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:48 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I use the JB Weld fix (Paul A., now Gerard?). 5 years, no leaks. 13:1 cr=
. It leaked massively before that. Seal fixed the problem in 24 hours.=20
>>>=20
>>> Ron Soave
>>>=20
>>>> On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:27 PM, "bmwwxman . via Spridgets" <spridgets@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Once more....   There is NO rear mail seal in this engine!  It has a sc=
roll seal (unless it has been aftermarket upgraded with either the Mo$$ moto=
rs kit or the Mini Mania kit.  Both of these kits are relatively new items).=
   Here's a 12 minute video which describes the Mini Mania kit installation a=
nd removal of the old scroll seal.  It is impossible to install the scroll s=
eal backwards. You are thinking of some other engine.
>>>>=20
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbnOPAlVDcME
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers!!
>>>> Jim
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:46 PM, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@aut=
ox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> Sounds like the rear main seal is in 'backwards'.
>>>>> Herb
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:16 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridgets <spridge=
ts@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Guys and Gals,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been stored away for d=
ecades.  I started it after the rebuild and all looked well after I discover=
ed that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.  That took me a while t=
o figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 went to 4 and 4 went t=
o 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Ok.  Here is my real question after running for about 20 minutes with=
 varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a half of oil decide=
d it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was being deposited on=
 the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the transmission.  What ha=
ppened here?  What should I check?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :1 compression and all so high=
 compression.  It sounded spectacular.  I am dying to drive it once I get yo=
u all to give me some idea of what may have happened.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Thanks a bunch for all of your thoughts.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Mike C
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>You had to supply your own cellophane w=
ith Paul's kit. &nbsp;Cigarette pack cellophane. &nbsp;:-)</div><div><br>On M=
ar 30, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Andrew Hardie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:andrew_hardie@t=
elus.net">andrew_hardie@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; cha=
rset=3Dutf-8"><div>The Paul A kit really wasn't a kit. Just some detailed in=
structions, a 1/8" drill, some cellophane and JB Weld and the requirement fo=
r a steady hand and a good eye.</div><div><br></div><div>Gerard has "fine tu=
ned" the rear seal kit offered by other vendors by keeping a gallery in his r=
eplacement eyebrow piece, unlike the "other guys". The eyebrow piece still n=
eeds to be accurately placed with even clearance all around.&nbsp;</div><div=
>Paul's JB Weld trick worked well in theory, but could only ever be as good a=
s the hands doing the very finicky work.</div><div>An even clearance of .001=
5 to .003 is the key whatever method you use, and whether or not you then ad=
d a seal kit.</div><div><br></div><div>Andy</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad<=
/div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-t=
ype" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>Don't think anyone is doing=
 the Paul A. kit anymore. &nbsp;Gerard has a very nice rear seal kit that ac=
tually uses a seal. &nbsp;I haven't tried one, but it's supposed to be very g=
ood.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my keyboard</div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:=
48 PM, Ron Soave via Spridgets &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"><div>I use the JB Weld fix (Paul A., now Gerard?). 5 years, no leaks.=
 13:1 cr. It leaked massively before that. Seal fixed the problem in 24 hour=
s.&nbsp;</div><div><br>Ron Soave</div><div><br>On Mar 30, 2015, at 4:27 PM, "=
bmwwxman . via Spridgets" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>sp=
ridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Once more.... &nbsp; There is NO rear mail seal in th=
is engine!&nbsp; It has a scroll seal (unless it has been aftermarket upgrad=
ed with either the Mo$$ motors kit or the Mini Mania kit.&nbsp; Both of thes=
e kits are relatively new items). &nbsp; Here's a 12 minute video which desc=
ribes the Mini Mania kit installation and removal of the old scroll seal.&nb=
sp; It is impossible to install the scroll seal backwards. You are thinking o=
f some other engine.<div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DbnOPAlVDcME">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbnOPAlVDcME</a><br><=
div><br></div><div>Cheers!!<br>Jim</div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extr=
a"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 3:46 PM, WFO Herb v=
ia Spridgets <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bloc=
kquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like the rear main seal is i=
n 'backwards'.<div>Herb</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 6:16 AM, lotuspilot--- via Spridget=
s <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family=
:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-=
size:12px"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Guys and Gals,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">I just rebuilt a Huffaker race engine that had been store=
d away for decades.&nbsp; I started it after the rebuild and all looked well=
 after I discovered that I had the distributor drive gear in 180 out.&nbsp; T=
hat took me a while to figure out until I replaced all of the plug wires 1 w=
ent to 4 and 4 went to 1 and 3 to 2 and 2 to 3.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ok.&nbsp; Here is my real question after running for ab=
out 20 minutes with varying engine speed, I noticed that about a quart and a=
 half of oil decided it didn't wish to stay in the engine any longer and was=
 being deposited on the driveway by way of the hole in the bottom of the tra=
nsmission.&nbsp; What happened here?&nbsp; What should I check?</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">By the way, the engine is running 11.5 :=
1 compression and all so high compression.&nbsp; It sounded spectacular.&nbs=
p; I am dying to drive it once I get you all to give me some idea of what ma=
y have happened.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks a b=
unch for all of your thoughts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
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