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Re: [Spridgets] Engine Break-in

To: Michael Rowe <mdrowe@optonline.net>, Spridgets List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine Break-in
From: GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 00:43:52 +0000 (UTC)
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Many will disagree with me but some (those with good engines - LOL) tend to=
 agree. =C2=A0You cannot break an engine in by driving it like you stole it=
 - you can kill it. =C2=A0For a street motor you want one that has the rubb=
ing surfaces which contain the microscopic peaks and valleys =C2=A0to be wo=
rn smooth gently. =C2=A0They do not want to be snapped off by revving the e=
ngine to its limits using an oil that could be used to dress a salad! =C2=
=A0The idea is to smooth things out and when they are, they will last longe=
r, you get more power output after 6 or 12 months, more miles per gallon an=
d an engine that breaks down less. For me, use a straight 30wt oil for arou=
nd 5 to 600 miles of peaceful driving then drain and flush and change oil f=
ilter. Replace with what ever oil you want to use in your little beastie an=
d drive peacefully for another 5-600 or so. =C2=A0After the oil change you =
can let the engine rev up to whatever it wants but at no time should you be=
 pushing it at no time should you be using more than 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. =
=C2=A0Downhill is the time to get the engine to high revs, get gravity doin=
g the work, drop into a lower gear to bring the revs up if you wish. =C2=A0=
Make sure you do this, it does need high revs but should not be straining t=
o get them.=C2=A0After your 1000 to 1200 miles you can give it a taste, you=
 can bring that smile up so it just fits between the ears but before then p=
lease treat your beastie nicely.If you do this you WILL have a sweet engine=
 that will serve you well for a long time. =C2=A0The rings will seat proper=
ly doing it this way. =C2=A0I wouldn't used synthetic oils until the 2nd oi=
l change, they are just too darned good for breaking an engine in.The drain=
 and flush and filter change is to get the inevitable metal filings out of =
the engine.Many will say I'm going over the top in doing all this BUT, all =
my new engines treated in a similar way have lasted. =C2=A0~It is only now,=
 after 2 years my Audi 3 litre diesel V6 is coming good and accelerates wel=
l from above the 70+ mark (What me break UK speed limits!!) and my last 127=
5 is still going strong after 15 years of continuous use.But each to their =
own, their way may work for them.
Guy R Day=20


     On Monday, 2 November 2015, 15:41, Bob Kitterer via Spridgets <spridge=
ts@autox.team.net> wrote:
  =20

 Michael,
What kind of oil are you using? =C2=A0If it is synthetic the rings most lik=
ely will never seat. =C2=A0I use a good grade of petroleum oil for the firs=
t 1K miles. =C2=A0Limiting the rpm to 3 K for the first couple hundred mile=
s. Then slowly go to higher rpm for the remainder. =C2=A0Now I do break in'=
s for longevity so there will be other preferred methods.

Bob =C2=A0Kitterer
1960 Austin Healey Sprite=C2=A0(Mk IV in disguise)1966 Austin Healey Sprite=
 Mk=C2=A0III (Trevor) - still in boxes2013 Miata
Pay it ForwardThanks Frank


On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net> wrote:



I=C2=A0 find variations in the advice on breaking in a new 1275 engine.=C2=
=A0 Is there one place where all agree on how to do it?=C2=A0 =C2=A0What sh=
ould be done if the rings do not seat properly=C2=A0on the first try?=C2=A0=
Michael Rowe
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Sans-Serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144650732984=
1_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4499">Many will disagree wit=
h me but some (those with good engines - LOL) tend to agree. &nbsp;You cann=
ot break an engine in by driving it like you stole it - you can kill it. &n=
bsp;For a street motor you want one that has the rubbing surfaces which con=
tain the microscopic peaks and valleys &nbsp;to be worn smooth gently. &nbs=
p;They do not want to be snapped off by revving the engine to its limits us=
ing an oil that could be used to dress a salad! &nbsp;The idea is to smooth=
 things out and when they are, they will last longer, you get more power ou=
tput after 6 or 12 months, more miles per gallon and an engine that breaks =
down less. For me, use a straight 30wt oil for around 5 to 600 miles of pea=
ceful driving then drain and flush and change oil filter. Replace with what=
 ever oil you want to use in your little beastie and drive peacefully for a=
nother 5-600 or so. &nbsp;After the oil change you can let the engine rev u=
p to whatever it wants but at no time should you be pushing it at no time s=
hould you be using more than 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. &nbsp;Downhill is the tim=
e to get the engine to high revs, get gravity doing the work, drop into a l=
ower gear to bring the revs up if you wish. &nbsp;Make sure you do this, it=
 does need high revs but should not be straining to get them.&nbsp;</span><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yu=
i_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_5913">After your 1000 to 1200 miles you can give i=
t a taste, you can bring that smile up so it just fits between the ears but=
 before then please treat your beastie nicely.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329=
841_6346">If you do this you WILL have a sweet engine that will serve you w=
ell for a long time. &nbsp;The rings will seat properly doing it this way. =
&nbsp;I wouldn't used synthetic oils until the 2nd oil change, they are jus=
t too darned good for breaking an engine in.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144650732984=
1_6347">The drain and flush and filter change is to get the inevitable meta=
l filings out of the engine.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_=
1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_6348">Many wil=
l say I'm going over the top in doing all this BUT, all my new engines trea=
ted in a similar way have lasted. &nbsp;~It is only now, after 2 years my A=
udi 3 litre diesel V6 is coming good and accelerates well from above the 70=
+ mark (What me break UK speed limits!!) and my last 1275 is still going st=
rong after 15 years of continuous use.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"y=
ui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_7672=
">But each to their own, their way may work for them.</span></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span><br></span></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1446507329841_4498"><span>Guy R Day</span><=
/div>  <br><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_q=
uoted" style=3D"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue,=
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px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, =
Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <fon=
t size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Monday, 2 November 2015, 15:41, Bob Kittere=
r via Spridgets &lt;spridgets@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div> =
 <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv8999363968"><div><di=
v>Michael,</div><div id=3D"yiv8999363968AppleMailSignature"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div id=3D"yiv8999363968AppleMailSignature">What kind of oil are =
you using? &nbsp;If it is synthetic the rings most likely will never seat. =
&nbsp;I use a good grade of petroleum oil for the first 1K miles. &nbsp;Lim=
iting the rpm to 3 K for the first couple hundred miles. Then slowly go to =
higher rpm for the remainder. &nbsp;Now I do break in's for longevity so th=
ere will be other preferred methods.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
span style=3D"">Bob &nbsp;Kitterer</span><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">196=
0 Austin Healey Sprite&nbsp;(Mk IV in disguise)</span></div><div><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:13pt;">1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk&nbsp;III (Trevor) - stil=
l in boxes</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">2013 Miata</spa=
n></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></di=
v><div><span style=3D"font-size:13pt;">Pay it Forward</span></div><div><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13pt;">Thanks Frank</span><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div><div class=3D"yiv8999363968yqt8302699992" id=3D"yiv89=
99363968yqt19636"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 2, 2015, at 7:46 AM, Micha=
el Rowe via Spridgets &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mai=
lto:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:spridgets@au=
tox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>

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63968yqt8302699992" id=3D"yiv8999363968yqt36061"><div><font face=3D"Arial">=
I&nbsp; find variations in the advice on breaking in a new=20
1275 engine.&nbsp; Is there one place where all agree on how to do it?&nbsp=
;=20
</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">What should be done if the rings do not seat=20
properly&nbsp;on the first try?</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">Michael Rowe</font></div></div>
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