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Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch

To: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 Speed Clutch
From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 17:27:09 -0800
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Adjusted.  Close, but not contacting the bolt stop.
Mike M

On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 4:37 PM Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> How much play do you have between the pedal and pushrods?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> We have decided that without pulling the engine and looking what's going
> on in the bell housing, we're done with the clutch for now.  Another
> problem now is with the brake pedal.  The whole purpose of this was to
> switch to disc brakes from the original drums.  I swapped the old master
> with a 7/8" bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4" bores as per
> disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967.  I used the old 7/8" brake
> pushrod that was 4 - 1/8" long and cut it down to 3- 11/16" in length.  T=
he
> clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4" sleeve in the original
> master to accommodate the Datsun clutch.  After bleeding the brakes and
> clutch, the clutch is just as it was with the old master cylinder, but th=
e
> brake pedal goes half way to the floor before becoming solid.  Brakes wor=
k
> OK, but the excessive travel in the pedal is a mystery.  If there was air
> in the system, you could pump it up to have the pedal at the top, but
> pumping the brake pedal makes no difference.  No air in the system, so wh=
at
> could it be?
> Mike M
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly <jeffsbugeye@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael et all,
>>
>> I have a Rivergate kit.  When I installed I used the modified Datsun
>> clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they
>> supplied.  I think it is a 7/8" slave. My master is a3/4" bore. Went to
>> 3/4" when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not
>> work out too well.  I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to
>> Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk.  Works
>> better, but still needs some adjusting.  To completely disengage, my
>> pedal is all the way to the floor.  I wonder if a 7/8" master would work
>> better.  Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch masters
>> and us a 7/8" for the clutch.
>>
>> Jeff Kelly
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Adjusted.=C2=A0 Close, but not contacting the bolt stop.<=
div dir=3D"auto">Mike M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 4:37 PM Rick Fisk &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:refisk@chartermi.net";>refisk@chartermi.net</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Mike,<div><br></di=
v><div>How much play do you have between the pedal and pushrods?<br><br><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite">On Dec 8, 2021, at 7:27 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">We have de=
cided that without pulling the engine and looking what&#39;s going on in th=
e bell housing, we&#39;re done with the clutch for now.=C2=A0 Another probl=
em now is with the brake pedal.=C2=A0 The whole purpose of this was to swit=
ch to disc brakes from the original drums.=C2=A0 I swapped the old master w=
ith a 7/8&quot; bore to a new AP Lockheed master with dual 3/4&quot; bores =
as per disc brake 1098/1275 Spridgets up to 1967.=C2=A0 I used the old 7/8&=
quot; brake pushrod that was 4 - 1/8&quot; long and cut it down to 3- 11/16=
&quot; in length.=C2=A0 The clutch pushrod was already cut down for the 3/4=
&quot; sleeve in the original master to accommodate the Datsun clutch.=C2=
=A0 After bleeding the brakes and clutch, the clutch is just as it was with=
 the old master cylinder, but the brake pedal goes half way to the floor be=
fore becoming solid.=C2=A0 Brakes work OK, but the excessive travel in the =
pedal is a mystery.=C2=A0 If there was air in the system, you could pump it=
 up to have the pedal at the top, but pumping the brake pedal makes no diff=
erence.=C2=A0 No air in the system, so what could it be?<div dir=3D"auto">M=
ike M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 10:16 AM Jeff Kelly &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:j=
effsbugeye@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jeffsbugeye@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Michael et all=
,<br>
<br>
I have a Rivergate kit.=C2=A0 When I installed I used the modified Datsun <=
br>
clutch disk , spridget 1275 flywheel and the billet slave cylinder they <br=
>
supplied.=C2=A0 I think it is a 7/8&quot; slave. My master is a3/4&quot; bo=
re. Went to <br>
3/4&quot; when I converted to front disc brakes. The clutch system did not =
<br>
work out too well.=C2=A0 I burned up 2 disks before I sent my flywheel to <=
br>
Gerard and had it drilled for the Datsun clutch plate and disk.=C2=A0 Works=
 <br>
better, but still needs some adjusting.=C2=A0 To completely disengage, my <=
br>
pedal is all the way to the floor.=C2=A0 I wonder if a 7/8&quot; master wou=
ld work <br>
better.=C2=A0 Long range I plan to install seperate brake and clutch master=
s <br>
and us a 7/8&quot; for the clutch.<br>
<br>
Jeff Kelly<br>
<br>
</blockquote></div>
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