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RE: The 215 thread/ Super 'Crosser

To: "'tigers@autox.team.net'" <tigers@autox.team.net>,
Subject: RE: The 215 thread/ Super 'Crosser
From: "Richard Atherton (Entex)" <a-richat@MICROSOFT.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:38:34 -0700
        Shelby's association was always with Ford.  I don't know of any Shelby
car without one.

Rich



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>From:  lrw@aop.com[SMTP:lrw@aop.com]
>Sent:  Monday, June 24, 1996 11:46 AM
>To:    tigers@autox.team.net
>Subject:       The 215 thread/ Super 'Crosser
>
>>Richard Atherton wrote:
>>          The Ultimate AutoCross car would be a stiffened Alpine
>>powered by the
>>         very light Buick (Rover) 215 V-8
>
>Didn't some part of the Tiger lore, the bit about Shelby or somebody
>driving around to dealerships measuring engines, state that the 215
>was a bit too wide across the valve covers to fit in an Alpine? Or is
>that story just used to justify Shelby's using Ford motors in
>everything?
>
>Phil wrote:
>>              -Mid-'70's a good friend who also worked at the same
>>Automotive 
>>              Machine shop/Engine Rebuilder put a fairly "stock" (balanced,
>rebuilt) 
>>              AL 215 V-8 with TURBO
>
>Considering how few turbo cars there were in the mid-70's, this must've
>been an ambitious undertaking-- unless we be talkin' about using an
>entire Olds Jetfire set-up. Nope, ambitious anyway, even then. Where
>would
>you put the intercooler in a Sunbeam 'crosser? On the passenger seat,
>perhaps? Or some TestaRossa cheese-grater slats on the sides?
>
>> & intercooler into a DATSUN 510 wagon
>
>Doing the wagon thing means giving up IRS, but considering the only
>way to make 'em handle was to stiffen them so that the springs didn't
>spring no more, I guess that was no loss. But Jeez, four doors-- Ugh!
>
>>               <snip>.great for weight transfer at stop lights but 
>>              looked like hell
>
>No beauty contests for 510's, for sure; and mine might've been the
>ugliest of the lot (the nose chopped away a bit to clear 7" headlights,
>four driving lights and still get air to the rad). Makes one happy
>about how pretty Sunbeams are, no?
>
>> and was a little front-end light on the freeway.
>
>And that was one dang high car to start with; stock ground clearance
>something like 9 inches. Well, at least getting under to change oil
>would be easy.
>
>Keith wrote:
>>The transmissions that came with the engines (3 speed manual and 2 speed
>automatic)
>
>The only one I ever drove, a '62 F-85, had something called a
>RotoHydroMatic,
>cannot remember if was one of the last 4sp autos or early in GM's
>adoption
>of 3speed autos. I dunno enough about GM trannys, they seemed to have
>come out with a new one every 20 minutes or so. Could the hypothetical
>SuperCrosser live with a  2sp slushbox? Or perhaps use a Rover SD1
>manual?
>
>
>
>Larry Wright, Maryland     "I can't get no-- Satis-traction"
>1964 Sunbeam Tiger Mk 1   (302/285, T-5)
>1996 Nissan 200SX SE-R       ($TB, 17d BTDC)    
>1992 Toyota pick-up             (Bilstein, Yoko AVS)
>ph 301.386.7979                      fax 301.386.5333
>and e-mail at home now!      Larry.Wright@mail.wdn.com
>(And I'm looking for a tow-behind cement mixer. Any
>ideas?)
>                                                
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