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Re: Charging System

To: frodo4@ix.netcom.com (John Souders)
Subject: Re: Charging System
From: w1gsl@MIT.EDU
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 18:44:01 EDT
<Quick test:

<Disconnect the field wire to the alternator. With engine running (idle 
<or a little above ...
<                                       ... temporarily connect a 
<wire from the battery(fuse box etc??) to the field terminal ...


<John  Series IV(ish)


Sorry John   .... bass ackwards for the stock alternator.

The following applies to the STOCK  10AC Lucas alternator system.
The 10AC is an antique design and differs from most modern 
configurations and therefore tests a bit differently.

A proper test procedure to isolate the fault...

1 pull the "Lucar" terminal off the F lug of the regulator.
2 Turn ignition on but don't start the engine.
3 Measure the voltage between the lucar (female) terminal and 
        ground. It should be close to the battery voltage.  

   If no voltage is measured the Alternator field is open, the
   6RA control relay is dead or the wiring between them is broken...  
   Follow the circuit back from the F terminal to the Alternator
   field negative contact (mostly exposed) , through the 3.5 ohm
   field resistance and back to the field relay then to the
   battery. 

   My bet is the brushes in the alternator are worn giving an open
   field... they are easy to replace. 

4  If Voltage is measured .. Start the engine.. If the voltage 
   drops or jumps around the brushes / sliprings are worn or dirty.
   Clean and replace as necessary.

5  If all of the above seems in good order connect the Lucar 
   terminal to ground.  The engine should load a bit and the battery 
   voltage should increase.  Do not allow the battery voltage to 
   exceed 15 Volts.  Disconnect the ground if it approaches 15 V.
   An ammeter should show charging.  If this happens the alternator 
   is good,  and the 4TR regulator or it wiring is the likely 
   culprit.   Check to see the regulator (-) connection is well 
   grounded, by using it to ground the F Lucar terminal.

   If you measure more than a volt from the 4TR (-) terminal to the 
   engine block, with the ignition on and everything connected the 
   ground is defective.  Check for corrosion. 

   If the lead to the (+) terminal  of the regulator is broken you will get 
   overcharging..  something you are not complaining about....

In doing all these tests and almost anything else with the electrics 
a good voltmeter - ohmmeter is a real advantage.  Of late excellent 
quality pocket sized digital meters have become very affordable.
My personal favorite is the Fluke 77 series.

                        Steve F


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