Steve,
Putting on an event is a thankless task at best, I have done so many times
in other clubs, and successfully I might add.
I simply asked regarding the swap, as if someone decides to show during the
""Concourse"" as well as sell parts, then this would not be possible.
In Temecula, if you remember, the swap was set up in the parking lot @ the
high school, and the Show was going on @ the same time, I was asked to
judge, it was fun as always, but when we were done, then the swap was shut
down, as to get ready for the Rally, immediately following...
I do know I have not registered, and I told you why and you do know I had
major surgery for a broken back 7 1/2 months ago, I still will try to come
up dependant on my recovery, as I just returned to work.
As to asking to know the judging criteria, this has never been hidden before
from the ranks, I just was curious if done as a popular vote, or as a real
defined Concourse ??
I do however have to deduct that as it is called a Concourse, and not a
show, it reasons to be a rather professionally judged event?? Masters class
?? Special interest category??
I am certainly not trying to PICK apart your event at all, I JUST WANT TO
KNOW...
Did not mean to ruffle your feathers (so to say).
I enjoy every event, and I am a team player, just please advise.
I would think that a great time for a swap is during the autocross, as an
example..
Sorry I asked....., and as to posting to all, I think input from others
makes a god event even better.
Jan...
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sage <rootes@ix.netcom.com>
To: JAN HARDE <harde@cyberesc.net>; Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 1998 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: "" CONCOURSE/ SWAP MEET ???? ""
>
>
>JAN HARDE wrote:
>
>> Steve,
>> Of course you are kidding, not another swap during the Concourse
FIASCO....
>> I still remember the B.S. during the Swap combo in Tarantulla a few years
>> ago, I was judging together with Dale, we got done, tired and hot, and
the
>> swap was closing up...
>> Well that is a HUUUUUUUGGGGEEEE disappointment again....
>> I hope this was only ment as a JOKE and a late April fools at that...
>> Please also post the judging criteria for this years show, is it a TRUE
>> Concourse?? or judged by other step to the right step to the left
>> routine????
>> A judges group ??? Is there a Masters class for this year ?? is there a
>> special interest ??
>>
>> Look to seeing you there, hope to bring my car, if the back gets
better...
>>
>> Jan.... ( please take this as constructive advise, from lessons learned
in
>> the past)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Sage <rootes@ix.netcom.com>
>> To: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>; Alpines List
>> <alpines@autox.team.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 3:04 PM
>> Subject: George Fallahy Award
>>
>> >To those who have expressed an interest, as per Norm's instructions, the
>> >winner of the Fallahy award has been chosen and will be announced at the
>> >Sunday awards banquet at Tigers United in Big Bear Lake.For those not
>> >attending, we'll post the winner afterwards.
>> >
>> >Now here's the Tigers United Update: Dates...June 26-27-28, 1998.Place,
>> >Big Bear Lake, California.
>> >
>> >50 Tigers, 7 Alpines and 111 people so far. There will be lots of
>> >looking at cars, driving around and acting silly, sightseeing, Sunbeam
>> >video viewing, parts selling and swapping, autocrossing, eating and
>> >drinking, swimming, hiking, and just generally having a good time. Sign
>> >up soon if you're coming, or forever hold your peace. If you think your
>> >entry might arrive at our place after June 20, let us know now since
>> >we're moving on that date and the mail might not catch up before the
>> >event. If you're not coming because of some silly reason, don't be silly
>> >and get your *()^%%$$% up to the event!
>> >
>> >If you're coming and want to sell or swap Sunbeam/Rootes goodies, bring
>> >them along. The parts swap/sell will take place concurrent with the
>> >concours on Saturday morning.
>> >
>> >E-mail any questions.
>> >
>> >Be there, or be square!
>> >
>> >Steve Sage
>
>Hello Jan And Everyone Else:
>
>I'm replying to the general Tiger list, as well as to Jan, since Jan posted
to
>the whole list. I'm also including my original post so those who may have
>deleted it get the whole context.
>
>I will preface this note by saying that I think that everyone who knows me,
and
>members of CAT who get the club magazine that I edit, will agree that I
have
>pretty much always tried to keep out of the petty politics and Rootes
>historical revisionism that a very few self proclaimed know it alls seem to
get
>some kind of perverse pleasure out of spreading. However, Jan's friendly
>posting to the list, plus some of the drivel I've received over the net and
>elsewhere from those who claim to be higher authorities about The Rootes
Group
>than people who worked directly for the factory, and the silly sniping back
and
>forth between various factions, has finally succeeded in generating a
response
>from me on the subject. I think many will agree that we own our Sunbeams to
>have a good time, for the common connection they give us with other Rootes
>owners all over the world, and because we all must be nuts to pour all the
time
>and money that we do into 30 year old cars!
>
>To answer Jan directly, point by point: 1. I am not kidding. The Temecula
swap
>meet was not a fiasco, but instead generated numerous positive comments.
Jane
>and I both enjoyed it, and the whole event. I have never heard Dale, or
anyone
>else for that matter, complain about the concours or parts swap at that
event.
>2. Jan hypothesizes that this is constructive advice. Jan, if you weren't
>trying to make a negative statement, you would have communicated with me
>privately and not on the general list. 3. No, I will not post judging
criteria
>for the concours event. First of all, if you want to nit pick the event,
before
>it happens, over the net, what you should do is next time volunteer to put
on
>Tigers United yourself, instead of griping and complaining in public. That
way
>you can set up the scoring, or anything else, any way you want. Secondly,
>posting the scoring criteria for any event ahead of time would be patently
>unfair. 4. Finally, since you have not yet signed up for the event, why do
you
>care?
>
>Here's the bottom line: As of 10 PM, California time, Wednesday, 108 people
are
>signed up, with 48 Tigers, 7 Alpines and other non Rootes entries, several
>additional entries on the way, people coming from as far away as Australia,
all
>60 rooms reserved for United at the Northwoods Resort are taken, and we
have
>only one plan for the weekend of June 26-27 & 28, and that is to have FUN.
Our
>sole goal for this event is to make sure that everyone else does the same,
and
>has a great time.
>
>Steve & Jane Sage
>
>
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