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Re: Alternator & 302

To: Carmods@aol.com
Subject: Re: Alternator & 302
From: Larry Paulick <larry.p@erols.com>
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 17:13:06 -0800
Kirt, John has good advise.  I have a 90 Mustang 5.0L and did some thing 
differently.

I used a GM one wire alternator, and my red ignition still acts as a low 
charge indicator.  Easy hook up, and Theo Smit helped me through this. 
Thanks again Theo.

I used a Ford stamped steel, in chrome from JC Whitney bracket and 
adjusted it with a rubber mallet for correct alignment, and it is spot 
on.  Very strong.

I used a billet aluminum crank 4 bolt pulley from March, and this sets 
up everything else, but it give max clearance for the R&P.

For the water pump, I used an Ford alum unit that is available from 
McParts, but the hub has to be pulled off, reversed and pressed on, to 
align.  Not hard it you have puller/pressing equipment.  I used a cheap 
puller and a vice, after disassembly of pump.  No big deal, and pump has 
roller bearings, and closed impeller.

I did not want to change the oil dip stick, including the timing cover, 
so I kept the left side stick, but used a Lokar flex dip stick unit. 
Fits nicely, and made for later Ford engines.  Accurate.

John was my motivate, and an email help when I did my 5.0L engine, and 
now it looks simple, but at the time very daunting.

Thanks again John.

Larry

PS - I believe it is proper to thank those who respond to your request 
for info/comments.  Most people do to me, some don't, and they are on 
the list of One Way People.  Not hard to say Thank You.


Carmods@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Kirt,
> 
> Here are some things you must be concerned about when installing an 
> alternator and 302. I'm sure others will have something to add or optional 
> suggestions.
> 
> Go with the one wire alternator. They are actually very easy to hook up but 
> you will lose your charge light. An ammeter or voltmeter is better anyway. 
> Get a Tiger wiring diagram. I will send you one if you don't have one.
> 
> There is one bolt on the head of the 1987 engine that holds the alternator 
> bracket that is larger than the 260. You may have to drill out the bracket, 
> depending on how large the hole is in the Sunbeam Specialties bracket.
>  
> Pulley alignment is your biggest problem. Here are some things you will have 
> to do.
> 
> 1. Install a new "V" belt waterpump from a 289/302 and press the mounting 
> flange
>     rearward to the 260 location.
> 
> 2. Using the waterpump pulley as the reference, line up the alternator and 
> crank
>     pulleys. To do this you can machine the nose of the damper to move the 
> pulley
>     rearward and probably add spacers at the alternator pivot. You must find 
> and 
>     re-drill if necessary, the crank pulleys with 4 bolt holes and the right 
> off set to get
>     alignment. You can find Ford pulleys in junk yard and separate multiple 
> pulleys if 
>     necessary. Maybe someone makes them.
> 
> 3. Do not use a three bolt balancer on the 1987 302 engine. It will have the 
> wrong 
>     counter weight. 
> 
> 4. The front chain cover will work but you will have to drill a new hole for 
> the dip stick.
>     You may be able to see an impression in the cover for the hole. 
> 
> 5. Plug the EGR holes in the heads. The engine doesn't run well with those 
> open.
>     Also, don't forget to tap and plug the dipstick hole on the side. Some 
> people have
>     forgotten that wonder where all the oil is coming from. It's harder to do 
> when the
>     engine is in the car.     
> 
>                                                         John Logan  
> 



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