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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Electrical Issue
From: James Lindner via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 19:45:55 -0400
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Hi Listers,

Thank you all for your feedback. I thought I would give an update. It =
seems I have 2 problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a =
loose connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I =
suspect my ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that. =


The bigger problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was my =
original problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place. =
Now my ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was =
the generator, at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too =
believed it was a generator problem. So today I removed the generator =
and took it to be rebuilt. I asked if we could bench test it before =
going through the effort/cost of rebuilding. They hooked up the =
generator and it tested out fine. We then added in the new and old V/Rs =
to the test. With the new V/R hooked up with the generator, it tested =
out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with the old V/R connected (which I =
had just replaced), the test showed the generator putting out a solid =
14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).

Bottomline...generator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s onto the =
wiring..

Again, thanks for all the input and given the updated info we are still =
open to any ideas.

Jim

From: James Lindner=20
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM
To: Tiger List=20
Subject: Electrical Issue

Hi All

I was getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not =
getting a charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it =
needed to keep the ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced =
problems keeping a voltage regulator for any great length of time. They =
just seem to give up after not so long. This time I did pretty =
well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a year. I checked the battery and generator =
just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery had a full charge and the generator =
was generating.

So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased from SS as a backup last =
year. I have done this installation a couple of times so I was =
confident, even with my minimal skills.

I got the new v/reg in. Reconnected the battery but When I went to =
polarize it (touch F wire and B wire momentarily per Shop =
Manual)=E2=80=A6nothing. I checked my connections (Brown to Batt =
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm =
terminal) all were correct. I double checked battery=E2=80=A6full =
charge.

Thinking the v/reg might be bad, I reinstalled the old one=E2=80=A6same =
results=E2=80=A6nothing.

I installed new one again=E2=80=A6same results.

The only other action I took was to disconnect the terminals on the =
generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I reconnected them =
correctly.

I took a chance and turned on the ignition=E2=80=A6dead.

After taking a break I went back out and did some more inspection and =
testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I found the battery wire =
(brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I crimped it down and got =
a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I then took =
some readings with my multimeter. Here are the readings=E2=80=A6


Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v

Batt Term @ =
V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..12.9v

Battery term @ =
solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V

Battery Term @ Gen (end of case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0



I thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt =
terminal on the generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests =
or anything else is appreciated.=20



I am pretty much a neophyte at this so please type slowly.



Thanks



Jim Lindner

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<DIV>Hi Listers,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thank you all for your feedback. I thought I would give an update. =
It seems=20
I have 2 problems. Everything went dead because it seems I have a loose=20
connection somewhere along the battery wire (brown) to the V/R. I =
suspect my=20
ammeter and the wiring for it have something to do with that. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The bigger problem is that my car is still NOT charging. This was =
my=20
original problem and the reason I replaced the V/R in the first place. =
Now my=20
ignition warning light is on full time. Many of you felt it was the =
generator,=20
at least one believed it is a fault in the wiring. I too believed it was =
a=20
generator problem. So today I removed the generator and took it to be =
rebuilt. I=20
asked if we could bench test it before going through the effort/cost of=20
rebuilding. They hooked up the generator and it tested out fine. We then =
added=20
in the new and old V/Rs to the test. With the new V/R hooked up with the =

generator, it tested out at 12.7v...a little anemic. But with the old =
V/R=20
connected (which I had just replaced), the test showed the generator =
putting out=20
a solid 14.5v (+/- a tenth or so).</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bottomline...generator and V/R tested out fine. So it=E2=80=99s =
onto the=20
wiring..</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Again, thanks for all the input and given the updated info we are =
still=20
open to any ideas.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Jim</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Djliny5@cox.net=20
href=3D"mailto:jliny5@cox.net";>James Lindner</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, April 10, 2015 8:37 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>Tiger List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Electrical Issue</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi =
All<BR><BR>I was=20
getting my Tiger ready for the season and I noticed that I was not =
getting a=20
charge at idle. The more the car warmed up, the more rpms it needed to =
keep the=20
ignition lite off. Over the years I have experienced problems keeping a =
voltage=20
regulator for any great length of time. They just seem to give up after =
not so=20
long. This time I did pretty well=E2=80=A6it lasted over a year. I =
checked the battery=20
and generator just to be sure=E2=80=A6the battery had a full charge and =
the generator=20
was generating.<BR><BR>So I switched out the v/reg for one I purchased =
from SS=20
as a backup last year. I have done this installation a couple of times =
so I was=20
confident, even with my minimal skills.<BR><BR>I got the new v/reg in.=20
Reconnected the battery but When I went to polarize it (touch F wire and =
B wire=20
momentarily per Shop Manual)=E2=80=A6nothing. I checked my connections =
(Brown to Batt=20
terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Grn to Fld terminal=E2=80=A6Brn/Yel to Arm =
terminal) all were correct. I=20
double checked battery=E2=80=A6full charge.<BR><BR>Thinking the v/reg =
might be bad, I=20
reinstalled the old one=E2=80=A6same results=E2=80=A6nothing.<BR><BR>I =
installed new one=20
again=E2=80=A6same results.<BR><BR>The only other action I took was to =
disconnect the=20
terminals on the generator and cleaned them up. I checked to make sure I =

reconnected them correctly.<BR><BR>I took a chance and turned on the=20
ignition=E2=80=A6dead.</FONT></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">After taking a break I went back =
out and did=20
some more inspection and testing. Not sure if it made a difference but I =
found=20
the battery wire (brown) spade connector at the fuse box loose. I =
crimped it=20
down and got a much tighter fit. The v/reg still would not polarize so I =
then=20
took some readings with my multimeter. Here are the =
readings=E2=80=A6</FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">Battery=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12.9v</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Batt Term @ =
V/reg=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=
=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..12.9v</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery term @ =
solenoid=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6..=E2=80=A6..12.9V</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Battery Term @ Gen (end of =
case)=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..0</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></FONT>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I=20
thought I should get a similar 12 something reading at the Batt terminal =
on the=20
generator. Any advice on where to make additional tests or anything else =
is=20
appreciated. </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I am pretty much a =
neophyte at=20
this so please type slowly.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thanks</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Jim=20
Lindner</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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