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According to TBON both the Shelby and Miles Alpine V-8s were Series II. =
The Jensen Project Prototype was a Series III.
=20
G. Robson Book =E2=80=93 my guess is Shelby wanted to change the =
steering rack position and the front suspension geometry. I also =
believe the next concern was the rear axle and suspension. These seem =
to have been his main concerns and there were probably others. Funny, =
the same ones we have today. Maybe a look at the race Tigers would give =
more hints about the direction he envisioned. Remember $10,000 for the =
Shelby Alpine V-8 only goes so far and Rootes was not interested in =
making major, read that expensive changes to the Alpine platform.
=20
Ron Fraser
=20
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Teepen, =
Jere via Tigers
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 6:31 PM
To: J Clark <icanhandyman@yahoo.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?
=20
I have no knowledge about the changes Shelby may have made if production =
had gone that way, but from what I recall, the first V-8 Alpines were =
Series 2 (Ken Miles) and 3 (Shelby).=20
=20
I am now curious too, has there been any information as to what Shelby =
may have proposed?
=20
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J Clark =
via Tigers
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 12:14 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger manufacturer?
=20
=20
Was reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. Robson =
book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story")=20
to Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a =
copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me.=20
Upon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of =
questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according to
Robson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the =
Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things may
have played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby =
the gig, rather than Jensen.
=20
Graham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being built =
with SIII body shells. I believe this is hogwash,
leading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's contents.
=20
One more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly?=20
=20
=
Regards,
=
Jon
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>According to =
TBON both the Shelby and Miles Alpine V-8s were Series II.=C2=A0 The =
Jensen Project Prototype was a Series III.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>G. Robson =
Book =E2=80=93 <b>my guess</b> is Shelby wanted to change the steering =
rack position and the front suspension geometry.=C2=A0 I also believe =
the next concern was the rear axle and suspension.=C2=A0 These seem to =
have been his main concerns and there were probably others. =C2=A0Funny, =
the same ones we have today.=C2=A0 Maybe a look at the race Tigers would =
give more hints about the direction he envisioned.=C2=A0 Remember =
$10,000 for the Shelby Alpine V-8 only goes so far and Rootes was not =
interested in making major, read that expensive changes to the Alpine =
platform.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron =
Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Teepen, Jere via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 10, 2016 6:31 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> J Clark <icanhandyman@yahoo.com>; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam =
Tiger manufacturer?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I have no knowledge about the changes Shelby may have made if =
production had gone that way, but from what I recall, the first V-8 =
Alpines were Series 2 (Ken Miles) and 3 (Shelby). =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>I am now curious too, has there been any information as to what Shelby =
may have proposed?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J Clark via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, June 10, 2016 12:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Sub=
ject:</b> [Tigers] Shelby as Sunbeam Tiger =
manufacturer?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4139"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4163"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>W=
as reading the Tiger Wikipedia and the reference (citing the G. Robson =
book, "Sunbeam Alpine and Tiger- The complete Story") =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4347"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>t=
o Carroll Shelby's initial desire to build the car. Though I do own a =
copy of this book I must admit that this is news to me. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4519"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>U=
pon reading what Robson wrote, it still left me with a couple of =
questions. Do any of you folks know what Shelby, according =
to<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4674"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>R=
obson, had in mind when he proposed "radical modification of the =
Alpine's structure and chassis"? One wonders how things =
may<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4726"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>h=
ave played out in the big scheme of things if Rootes had given Shelby =
the gig, rather than Jensen.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4626"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4798"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>G=
raham Robson also makes reference to some of the prototypes being built =
with SIII body shells. I believe this is =
hogwash,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1465537966360_4919"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>l=
eading me to question the veracity of the rest of the book's =
contents.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>O=
ne more thing. Is my punctuation in this text coming through legibly? =
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