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To: randya@pacbell.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
From: Cliff Morgan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 19:46:12 -0600
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Hi Derrick, how did you route/install the return line?  Where did you hook
it up to the rear tanks or line?  Thanks for your information, Cliff

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:37 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi Derrick -
> Looks like a cool setup - an EFI that looks like an old school carb,
> although you do have to hide the electronics cable somehow.  Please keep
> the group informed about the outcome of your installation.  BTW, list pri=
ce
> is about $2500.
>
> - Randy A.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Derrick Schmidt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *To:* Mark Rense <mark44124@gmail.com>; Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:07 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
>
> Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.
>
> https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s
>
> Derrick
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering
> system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in ma=
ny
> different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and
> have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500
> CFM is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.  However,
> they are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how
> cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!
>
> The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.
> Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon
> engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of th=
e
> box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl
> cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is
> also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler bu=
t
> at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.
>
> There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage i=
s
> cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality
> swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the
> Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least
> invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.
>
>
>
> https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sn=
iper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516
>
> Good luck!
> Bugz
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
> want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on =
it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 140=
3
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTec=
h
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Derrick, how did you route/install the return line?=C2=
=A0 Where did you hook it up to the rear tanks or line?=C2=A0 Thanks for yo=
ur information, Cliff</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 9:37 PM Randall Antosiak via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-co=
lor:#fff;font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148=
981972_276156">Hi Derrick -=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">Looks like a cool setup - an EFI that l=
ooks like an old school carb, although you do have to hide the electronics =
cable somehow.=C2=A0 Please keep the group informed about the outcome of yo=
ur installation.=C2=A0 BTW, list price is about $2500.</div><div id=3D"m_33=
22557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156"><br></div><div id=
=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276156">- Randy A.=
</div><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"m_33225572600=
34269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276144"><br><br></div><div class=3D=
"m_3322557260034269949yahoo_quoted" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1540148981972_276139" style=3D"display:block">  <div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px=
" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276138"> <div =
style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Gr=
ande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_=
1_1540148981972_276137"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276136"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" id=3D"m_=
3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276271"> <hr size=3D"1" =
id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276295"> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Derrick Schmidt via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Mark=
 Rense &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mark44124@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">mark441=
24@gmail.com</a>&gt;; Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> Tigers Den &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:07 P=
M<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] =
Carb Question<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949y_msg_c=
ontainer" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276275=
"><br><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559"><div id=3D"m_332255726=
0034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276274">
Having a Terminator Stealth installed as I type.=C2=A0<div id=3D"m_33225572=
60034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276273"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276291"><a=
 rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s"; id=
=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276338" target=3D"=
_blank">https://youtu.be/1gn_McEhX-s</a>=C2=A0</div><div id=3D"m_3322557260=
034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276289"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276277">Derr=
ick=C2=A0<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv301124355=
9enhancr-placeholder-medium" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559temp-e=
nhancr-placeholder"></div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://yho.com/footer=
0" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276279" targe=
t=3D"_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt4589353778" i=
d=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt93036"><div class=3D"m_3322557260=
034269949yiv3011243559yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size:15px;color:#71=
5ffa;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1540148981972_276281">On Thursday, September 27, 2018, 11:09 AM, Mark=
 Rense via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><blockquote class=3D"m_3322=
557260034269949yiv3011243559iosymail" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1540148981972_276287"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559=
"><div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276286"><=
div id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276285"><div=
 id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1540148981972_276284">Are you=
 trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering system? =
As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in many differe=
nt applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and have found=
 the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The <a rel=3D"nofollow" sha=
pe=3D"rect" dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_154014=
8981972_276340">1403 500</a> CFM is a great and responsive carb for anythin=
g under 250 hp.=C2=A0 However, they are definitely more susceptible to gas =
boiling, and we all know how cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!</div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and =
worked well on the 260. Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on mo=
derately breathed-upon engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes w=
ay too rich out of the box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position=
, accept pump, bowl cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new=
 Holleys. There is also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to r=
un much cooler but at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.=C2=A0</div></div><=
div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>There are many new FI systems out there a=
nd to me the biggest advantage is cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning an=
d tolerance of the poor quality swill that comes out of the pump. I am thin=
king that I will install the Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this win=
ter as it is the least invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.=C2=A0</div=
><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow" =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_in=
jection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper=
_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div>Good luck!</div><div>Bugz</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559=
gmail_quote"><div class=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt2718976860"=
 id=3D"m_3322557260034269949yiv3011243559yqt18520"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue,=
 Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"m_=
3322557260034269949yiv3011243559gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bor=
der-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey,<div><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, n=
o modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original own=
er had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will w=
ork better.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>So which is a better so=
lution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a=
 friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by =
it.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</di=
v></div>
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