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I entirely agree. National taxation has a major impact on fuel prices and th=
ere are huge variations. I only submitted my earlier post in case any lister=
was considering the UK or Europe as a vacation option this year and seeking=
car rental. Frankly, why anyone would want to come to either venue is a bit=
beyond me. For me, the mountains in the South Island of New Zealand which I=
saw many years ago are infinitely attractive and to say goodbye to the UK f=
or good.
In Europe, while there are fairly small variances from country to country fo=
r gas, LPG and diesel, the US has pretty well always been far cheaper than a=
lot of countries elsewhere in the world. Some years ago, I noticed gasoline=
in Canada was noticeably more costly than the US and California was far mor=
e expensive than other US states. The other advantage you have is crude is p=
riced in US dollars coming out of the ground. That=E2=80=99s fine if the US d=
ollar is your currency, but when it isn=E2=80=99t, whatever currency is bein=
g converted to buy crude, is at the mercy of volatile currency exchange rate=
s between the buying currency and the USD.
The bottom line is that while fuel prices are unlikely to dramatically chang=
e from where they have compared regionally over the decades, industry, comme=
rce and the private individual are inevitably going to get financially shaft=
ed by national governments and inter alia currency fluctuations. For the mos=
t part, those changes up in increasing costs lie very much in the hands of p=
oliticians and geopolitical events over which Joe and Josie Public can exert=
absolutely zero control. The =E2=80=9CRocket Feather=E2=80=9D situation on t=
axation and price control is with us yet again, while those that govern us d=
on=E2=80=99t really give a toss, despite their periodic whining denials to t=
he contrary. Rant off.
JM
> On 12 May 2026, at 23:26, John Innis <jdinnis@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Do bear in mind that in additional to the various differences in sources o=
f materials and transportation cost, there is also a considerable difference=
in the tax structure between the US and other parts of the world. US feder=
al gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon. In addition to that we have various e=
xcise tax imposed by states, some as high as $0.60 per gallon. There are als=
o various state and local sales tax, which is based on the total cost of the=
fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax. Generally the highest total tax on=
gasoline in the US is about $0.90 per gallon. Compare that to the UK, whic=
h I understand has a tax of 52.95p per litre fuel duty plus 20%VAT. Basical=
ly half of the cost of fuel in the UK is taxes. Vs in the US it is more lik=
e 20%. =20
>=20
>> On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gm=
x.com> wrote:
>> My iPad news feed tells me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98=
rather agitated=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline pric=
es hitting the USD4.50 per US gallon.=20
>>=20
>> So?
>>=20
>> I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arrivi=
ng at the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again=
, so a part-refill was soon decided.
>>=20
>> For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices is=
this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons as=
heretofore.
>>=20
>> One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.
>> One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre
>> One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02
>> Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD=
8.127 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different=
either.
>>=20
>> Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast frie=
nds are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your bless=
ings, friends.
>>=20
>> It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago bu=
t if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able to=
afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps th=
ose who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limite=
d in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sitti=
ng in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this cha=
otic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia Spo=
rtage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still giving=
us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg is also a=
vailable - but for how much longer?
>>=20
>> Jonmac
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I e=
ntirely agree. National taxation has a major impact on fuel prices and there=
are huge variations. I only submitted my earlier post in case any lister wa=
s considering the UK or Europe as a vacation option this year and seeking ca=
r rental. Frankly, why anyone would want to come to either venue is a bit be=
yond me. For me, the mountains in the South Island of New Zealand which I sa=
w many years ago are infinitely attractive and to say goodbye to the UK for g=
ood.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In Europe, while there=
are fairly small variances from country to country for gas, LPG and diesel,=
the US has pretty well always been far cheaper than a lot of countries else=
where in the world. Some years ago, I noticed gasoline in Canada was noticea=
bly more costly than the US and California was far more expensive than other=
US states. The other advantage you have is crude is priced in US dollars co=
ming out of the ground. That=E2=80=99s fine if the US dollar is your currenc=
y, but when it isn=E2=80=99t, whatever currency is being converted to buy cr=
ude, is at the mercy of volatile currency exchange rates between the buying c=
urrency and the USD.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">The bottom line is that while fue=
l prices are unlikely to dramatically change from where they have compared r=
egionally over the decades, industry, commerce and the private individual ar=
e inevitably going to get financially shafted by national governments and in=
ter alia currency fluctuations. For the most part, those changes up in incre=
asing costs lie very much in the hands of politicians and geopolitical event=
s over which Joe and Josie Public can exert absolutely zero control. The =E2=
=80=9CRocket Feather=E2=80=9D situation on taxation and price control is wit=
h us yet again, while those that govern us don=E2=80=99t really give a toss,=
despite their periodic whining denials to the contrary. Rant off.</div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 12 M=
ay 2026, at 23:26, John Innis <<a href=3D"mailto:jdinnis@gmail.com";>jdinn=
is@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Do bear in mind that in additional to the various dif=
ferences in sources of materials and transportation cost, there is also a co=
nsiderable difference in the tax structure between the US and other parts of=
the world. US federal gasoline tax is $0.184 per gallon. In add=
ition to that we have various excise tax imposed by states, some as high as $=
0.60 per gallon. There are also various state and local sales tax, which is b=
ased on the total cost of the fuel, rather than a set per gallon tax. G=
enerally the highest total tax on gasoline in the US is about $0.90 per gall=
on. Compare that to the UK, which I understand has a tax of 52.95p per=
litre fuel duty plus 20%VAT. Basically half of the cost of fuel in th=
e UK is taxes. Vs in the US it is more like 20%. </div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Tue, May 12, 2026 at 3:07=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:johnbmacartney@gmx.com";>johnbmacartney@gmx.com</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">My iPad news feed te=
lls me lots of people in the US are getting =E2=80=98rather agitated=E2=80=99=
and =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 at gasoline prices hitting the USD4.50 p=
er US gallon. <br>
<br>
So?<br>
<br>
I went to fill up our daily driver today (Kia Sportage hybrid) and arriving a=
t the supermarket, saw that 95 octane E10 unleaded has gone up yet again, so=
a part-refill was soon decided.<br>
<br>
For comparative purposes, the equivalent cost in USDs using UK prices i=
s this. Our fuel is sold now only in litres and no longer imperial gallons a=
s heretofore.<br>
<br>
One US gallon is equal to 3.785 litres.<br>
One litre here costs GBP 1.59 per litre<br>
One US gallon in GB pounds is 3.785x1.59 =3D GBP6.02<br>
Multiply the GBP6.02 by 1.35 to turn them into USDs and the figure is USD8.1=
27 per US gallon price in the UK. Europe isn=E2=80=99t too much different ei=
ther.<br>
<br>
Basically, double what our =E2=80=98a bit miffed=E2=80=99 enthusiast friends=
are paying on t=E2=80=99other side o=E2=80=99t pond, so count your blessing=
s, friends.<br>
<br>
It broke my heart when I sold my two Triumph Big Sixes some years ago b=
ut if I=E2=80=99d kept them, as sure as hell I=E2=80=99d no longer be able t=
o afford keeping them to enjoy their continued and delightful use. Perhaps t=
hose who paid me a lot less than either was worth at the time, are now limit=
ed in only being able to look at them and making brrrmmm brrrmmm noises sitt=
ing in the driving seat. I hope so. The only good news coming out of this ch=
aotic international bloody mess both at home and abroad is the Hybrid Kia Sp=
ortage with part time electric power and regenerative braking is still givin=
g us 57mpg on mixed rural and urban use. Being very gentle, 61-63mpg is also=
available - but for how much longer?<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
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