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Subject: Re: welders
From: Peter Macholdt <vze2846b@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:27:57 -0500
I gotta jump in here. The Lincoln does come with the MIG kit if you buy the
MIG-Pak 10 (or 15).

Cost from Eastwood with a welding cart was $396 for the MIG-Pak 10. No
lessons, but a great price and well-built unit.

FYI, if you haven't been this route before, the price of the welder is just
the biggest single cost of welding. The other pieces can/ will easily add up
to this amount or more (grinder and attachments, gas tank, gas fill,
flux-core welding kit, extra tips, gloves, welding helmet, and a whole lot
more).

Don't discount the Lincoln.

Peter
'68 TR250



on 11/18/02 10:21 PM, Don Malling at dmallin@attglobal.net wrote:

> This sounds very interesting -- maybe the Hobart is a Miller in
> disguise? 
> 
> Would be nice to hear from the Hobart owners their impression of its
> quality.
> 
> Seems I can recall that the Hobart came with the gas kit. I know the
> Lincoln does not. Not sure about the Miller.
> 
> Don Malling 
> 
> 
> 
> Larry Hoy wrote:
>> 
>> I bought a Miller at the local welding shop.  My experience has been
>> much like Jims.  When you buy a welder at my welding supply store they
>> give you 'lessons'.  We're not talking a long course, but as many
>> Saturdays as you want to give up.  I think the have 'rookie' lessons
>> once a month.
>> 
>> As I recall mine is a Miller 130.  It runs on 110v and uses gas or flux
>> wire.  I was going to get the 220v model but chose the 110v for the
>> 'portability' it provides.  I can plug it in just about anywhere.  I was
>> concerned if it would be big enough, I've owned it for 3 years, and it
>> has handled anything I can throw at it.
>> 
>> The Miller was a little cheaper than the Lincoln (my welding shop sells
>> both) but I feel it is as good or better than the Lincoln.
>> 
>> The Hobart is cheaper than both.  But don't let price fool you.  It is a
>> great welder.  I'm thinking after Miller bought Hobart they moved it to
>> a different market than the Miller welders.  Why would you compete with
>> yourself?  You'll find the Hobart in many retail outlets (including
>> Harbor Freight).  It's my understanding it is still the high quality
>> welder it always has been, just marketed differently.
>> 
>> One more thing, the Lincoln you see at the home improvement store is not
>> a professional model.  It is produced to be sold at retail outlets.
>> That does not make it a bad machine.  But don't compare it to the
>> cheapest Lincoln at the welding shop ... No comparison.
>> 
>> Larry Hoy
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-mgs@autox.team.net
>>> [mailto:owner-mgs@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Stuart
>>> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:58 PM
>>> To: Mg list (E-mail)
>>> Subject: welders
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My first MIG welder was a Lincoln sold by Sears under their
>>> own name. What a dog! On top of that, I barely knew what I
>>> was doing- a bad combination. Finally, after several years of
>>> getting the guys in the company shop to do my welding, I
>>> decided to try again, buying a welder. This time I was a bit
>>> smarter. I went to the welding supply shop were the company I
>>> work for buys all their parts & supplies & talked to one of
>>> the salesmen, telling how I was planning to use the welder, &
>>> how much I didn't't know.
>>> Jim Stuart
>>> 1966 MGBV8
>>> 1974 MGBGTV8
>>> 1973 MGBGT V8 under construction

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