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Dale
I posted an exhaustive message on this very subject just a few weeks ago.
Without repeating the whole thing, I'd bet your pressure plate has failed. I've
been through this. Twice. The problem is crappy metallurgy resulting in the
pressure plate deforming when it gets hot.
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:22:36 -0400
From: Dale Katzfey <dkatzfey@woh.rr.com>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Transmission or clutch issues
Here is my problem which I need some guidance. When I start in the
morning everything works fine. I can put the car in reverse without any
problems. I can up or down shift easily. As things warm up, it gets
harder and harder to shift gears. It is almost like the clutch is not
going far enough especially into first or second. Even when I double
clutch it. When I try to put it in reverse, it grinds. //I can get it
into reverse but it does not want to go there. If I turn off the engine
and start up with the clutch depressed, it will work without grinding.
I made sure I had the DOT 5 fluid up to full. I got an adjustable link
connector between the slave and clutch and have lengthened that out
quite a bit without success. Transmission oil was low, so I filled that.
What do you think? My regular mechanic thinks it is the clutch, but why
does it work when cold? HELP!
Dale
1974 TR6
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From: <brian@asmoothmove.biz>
To: <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] Picture needed
Can someone on the list please send me a photo (off line) of an original
radio installation with the factory bezel and knobs for a 72 TR6? If other
years are similar that's OK. I have an original AM/FM but I made a fake
bezel and wrong knobs several years ago and would like to know what the
factory install looks like.
Thank you.
Brian J. Alwin
CC79085
Minnesnowta
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From: <brian@asmoothmove.biz>
To: "'Dale Katzfey'" <dkatzfey@woh.rr.com>, <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Transmission or clutch issues
It certainly sounds like the clutch not fully disengaging for a possible number
of reasons. The symptom may not appear when cold as the transmission oil is
?thick? enough to resist the first motion (input) shaft?s rotation. When things
warm up as the transmission oil ?thins out? and can no longer resist this
rotation. Unfortunately I can?t help with a specific cause. What is the size of
your slave cylinder? Some are have a large dia. than others I believe.
Brian
From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dale Katzfey via
6pack
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:23 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Transmission or clutch issues
Here is my problem which I need some guidance. When I start in the morning
everything works fine. I can put the car in reverse without any problems. I can
up or down shift easily. As things warm up, it gets harder and harder to shift
gears. It is almost like the clutch is not going far enough especially into
first or second. Even when I double clutch it. When I try to put it in reverse,
it grinds. I can get it into reverse but it does not want to go there. If I
turn off the engine and start up with the clutch depressed, it will work
without grinding.
I made sure I had the DOT 5 fluid up to full. I got an adjustable link
connector between the slave and clutch and have lengthened that out quite a bit
without success. Transmission oil was low, so I filled that.
What do you think? My regular mechanic thinks it is the clutch, but why does it
work when cold? HELP!
Dale
1974 TR6
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 20:47:25 -0400
From: Rochlin Robert <rrochlin@comcast.net>
To: brian@asmoothmove.biz
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Picture needed
Brian,
Here you go.
Bob
72? TR 6
> On Oct 20, 2015, at 5:51 PM, brian--- via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Can someone on the list please send me a photo (off line) of an original
> radio installation with the factory bezel and knobs for a 72 TR6? If other
> years are similar that?s OK. I have an original AM/FM but I made a fake bezel
> and wrong knobs several years ago and would like to know what the factory
> install looks like.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Brian J. Alwin
> CC79085
> Minnesnowta
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r: #000000'>Dale<div><br></div><div>I posted an exhaustive message on this =
very subject just a few weeks ago. Without repeating the whole thing, I'd b=
et your pressure plate has failed. I've been through this. Twice. The probl=
em is crappy metallurgy resulting in the pressure plate deforming when it g=
ets hot.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=
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sday, October 20, 2015 5:47:02 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>6pack Digest, Vol 15, =
Issue 13<br><br>Send 6pack mailing list submissions to<br>  =
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ch the person managing the list at<br> &=
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r Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest=
..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Transmission or clut=
ch issues (Dale Katzfey)<br> 2. Picture needed (brian@asmoothmo=
ve.biz)<br> 3. Re: Transmission or clutch issues (brian@asmooth=
move.biz)<br> 4. Re: Picture needed (Rochlin Robert)<br><br><br=
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<br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:22:36 -0400<br>From: Dale Katzf=
ey <dkatzfey@woh.rr.com><br>To: 6pack@autox.team.net<br>Subject: [6pa=
ck] Transmission or clutch issues<br>Message-ID: <5626B09C.4030300@woh.r=
r.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"=
<br><br>Here is my problem which I need some guidance. When I start i=
n the <br>morning everything works fine. I can put the car in reverse=
without any <br>problems. I can up or down shift easily. As th=
ings warm up, it gets <br>harder and harder to shift gears. It is alm=
ost like the clutch is not <br>going far enough especially into first or se=
cond. Even when I double <br>clutch it. When I try to put it in=
reverse, it grinds. //I can get it <br>into reverse but it does not want t=
o go there. If I turn off the engine <br>and start up with the clutch=
depressed, it will work without grinding.<br><br>I made sure I had the DOT=
5 fluid up to full. I got an adjustable link <br>connector between t=
he slave and clutch and have lengthened that out <br>quite a bit without su=
ccess. Transmission oil was low, so I filled that.<br><br>What do you=
think? My regular mechanic thinks it is the clutch, but why <br>does=
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>Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 16:51:46 -0500<br>From: <brian@asmoothmove.biz&g=
t;<br>To: <6pack@autox.team.net><br>Subject: [6pack] Picture needed<b=
r>Message-ID: <007001d10b81$84ac0dd0$8e042970$@asmoothmove.biz><br>Co=
ntent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br><br>Can someone on the list=
please send me a photo (off line) of an original<br>radio installation wit=
h the factory bezel and knobs for a 72 TR6? If other<br>years are similar t=
hat's OK. I have an original AM/FM but I made a fake<br>bezel and wrong kno=
bs several years ago and would like to know what the<br>factory install loo=
ks like.<br><br> <br><br>Thank you.<br><br> <br><br> <br><br=
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ate: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:19:55 -0500<br>From: <brian@asmoothmove.biz>=
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"<br><br>It certainly sounds like the clutch not fully disengaging for a po=
ssible number of reasons. The symptom may not appear when cold as the trans=
mission oil is ?thick? enough to resist the first motion (input) shaft?s ro=
tation. When things warm up as the transmission oil ?thins out? and c=
an no longer resist this rotation. Unfortunately I can?t help with a specif=
ic cause. What is the size of your slave cylinder? Some are have a large di=
a. than others I believe.<br><br> <br><br>Brian<br><br> <br><br>F=
rom: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dale Katzfey =
via 6pack<br>Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 4:23 PM<br>To: 6pack@autox.tea=
m.net<br>Subject: [6pack] Transmission or clutch issues<br><br> <br><b=
r>Here is my problem which I need some guidance. When I start in the =
morning everything works fine. I can put the car in reverse without a=
ny problems. I can up or down shift easily. As things warm up, =
it gets harder and harder to shift gears. It is almost like the clutc=
h is not going far enough especially into first or second. Even when =
I double clutch it. When I try to put it in reverse, it grinds.  =
; I can get it into reverse but it does not want to go there. If I tu=
rn off the engine and start up with the clutch depressed, it will work with=
out grinding.<br><br>I made sure I had the DOT 5 fluid up to full. I =
got an adjustable link connector between the slave and clutch and have leng=
thened that out quite a bit without success. Transmission oil was low=
, so I filled that. <br><br>What do you think? My regular mechanic th=
inks it is the clutch, but why does it work when cold? HELP!<br><br>D=
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hmove.biz<br>Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Picture neede=
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t 5:51 PM, brian--- via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:<br>> <=
br>> Can someone on the list please send me a photo (off line) of an ori=
ginal radio installation with the factory bezel and knobs for a 72 TR6? If =
other years are similar that?s OK. I have an original AM/FM but I made a fa=
ke bezel and wrong knobs several years ago and would like to know what the =
factory install looks like.<br>> <br>> Thank you.<br>>  =
;<br>> <br>> Brian J. Alwin<br>> CC79085<br>> Minnesnowta=
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