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Re: [evolution-disc.] More van questions - BB vs. SB mileage,

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Subject: Re: [evolution-disc.] More van questions - BB vs. SB mileage,
From: "Steve Hoelscher" <stevehh@hiwaay.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:48:57 -0600
Dave,

The 460 is certainly a great motor as far as pulling power and reliability
goes.  It will litterally, "tow anything".  However, 406's are old engines
and are notorious gas hogs.

You are correct about "a perfect world" but that assumes similar thermal
efficiency between engines and the 460 is sub-par on this catagory.   The
later model engines are much more efficient and therefore most will get
similar mileage towing the same load.

Diesels can be found but they are not common.  The 5.8/351 like you had is
probably going to be your best bet.

Steve Hoelscher
#84 ESP




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Hardy" <dave2020@mindspring.com>
To: <evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com>; <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:39 AM
Subject: [evolution-disc.] More van questions - BB vs. SB mileage,
durability?


>
> I found a van that is very similar to the one I'm replacing.  The only
> notable difference is that the one I found comes with a 460 vs. my 351.
I'm
> not against the bigger engine, but I also don't really need it.  My main
> concern is the effect it would have on mileage.  First thought is that the
> mileage would be worse, just because it's bigger.  OTOH, in a
> thermodynamically perfect world it should be identical because the energy
> being used is the same.  Finally, maybe it's better because the engine
isn't
> being pushed as hard to do the same work.  I looked on the governments
fuel
> mileage site, but they don't list E350's, presumably because it is over
the
> 6000# GVWR that defines a passenger car.  So - what kind of mileage impact
> could I expect from the bigger engine.
>
> Also - is the 460 a decent engine?  My 351 with 200K on the clock didn't
> leak or burn a drop of oil.  It would sit for a month, start on the first
> crank, and run reliably.  My only experience with a 460 is that my dad had
> to replace a cracked head on the 460 that was in our 1974 LTD Country
Squire
> wagon (aka Family Truckster) when I was a kid.  I'm willing to give Ford
the
> benefit of the doubt though that they made some improvements between 1974
> and 1994, but overall, could I expect the same 200K+ trouble free miles
from
> the 460?
>
> I'd love to find a diesel, but a diesel Clubwagon seems to be rarer than a
> happy ESP Camaro driver.  I suppose I could get a diesel work van, buy my
> Clubwagon back, and convert the work van into a Clubwagon.  That seems
like
> a lot of work for a car that I prefer not to work on.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
>
>
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