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driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101

To: Anthony Tabacco <atabacco@california.com>, ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101
From: james creasy <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 11:38:56 -0700
i have a related question.

my driveway has two strips of hard material (red concrete?) with grass in
the middle.  id love it if i could the last 20 feet or so  paved over so i
could work on my car outside.  any tips for what to ask for for a
contractor, or tips on finding one?  if this will cost more than $10K forget
it.

the original driveway was built in 1923 and it about 35 feet long- runs
right next to the house on one side for about 20 feet.

in the summer i can put a jack on the dirt/grass, but im not brave enough to
crawl underneath with jack stands on just dirt.

anyone done this?  advice?  thanks,

-james "now a new jag driver" creasy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Tabacco" <atabacco@california.com>
To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:20 AM
Subject: A/C Paving 101


> Hot Mix Asphalt Paving ingredients include asphalt binders, course and
fine
> aggregates, and mineral fillers. About 90-95% of the total volume of the
mix
> is made up of aggregates. Surfaces that we usually associate with gravel
> buildup will usually be of a mix design that contains a high percentage of
> course aggregates, and probably a degradation of binders though wear and
> evaporation (petroleum products evaporate). There are various surface
> treatments, ranging from sprayed asphalt, asphalt seals (fog seal), to
> slurries of emulsified asphalts mixed with fine aggregates, that can
extend
> the life of paving by limiting water intrusion, and these are particularly
> necessary as the mix begins to disintegrate.
>
> I can think of no other activity that will degrade a paved surface faster
> than autocrossing on it. The aggregates are literally being pulled from
the
> surface. Even high traffic-index truck traffic will not subject a surface
to
> the high shear of racing cars on it. So that's where the gravel comes
from,
> and that's why no matter how we sweep it, it reappears. It is just the
> pavement breaking down. Irreparably.
>
> With rough grading, but no curbs, gutters, marking, right now you can
figure
> about $3.00 per square foot in install a medium index (for large areas and
> not a high traffic-index) parking lot. The lot at GGF to use an example is
> 550,000 SF (about 12.6 acres not counting the staging area). That's works
> out to a little over $1.6M.
>
> This is all pretty boring stuff but it begs a question that is interesting
> ( I've always found it very interesting anyway), namely : Why would anyone
> let us do this to their lot?
>
> Tony

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