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RE: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101

To: "'james creasy'" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>,
Subject: RE: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101
From: Navid Kahangi <navid@interwoven.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:04:55 -0700
James,

For less than $10K, put a heavy-duty lift installed and you don't have to
crawl under the car at all.

--Navid

> -----Original Message-----
> From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: Anthony Tabacco; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: driveway contracting question, was Re: A/C Paving 101
> 
> 
> i have a related question.
> 
> my driveway has two strips of hard material (red concrete?) 
> with grass in
> the middle.  id love it if i could the last 20 feet or so  
> paved over so i
> could work on my car outside.  any tips for what to ask for for a
> contractor, or tips on finding one?  if this will cost more 
> than $10K forget
> it.
> 
> the original driveway was built in 1923 and it about 35 feet 
> long- runs
> right next to the house on one side for about 20 feet.
> 
> in the summer i can put a jack on the dirt/grass, but im not 
> brave enough to
> crawl underneath with jack stands on just dirt.
> 
> anyone done this?  advice?  thanks,
> 
> -james "now a new jag driver" creasy
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Tabacco" <atabacco@california.com>
> To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:20 AM
> Subject: A/C Paving 101
> 
> 
> > Hot Mix Asphalt Paving ingredients include asphalt binders, 
> course and
> fine
> > aggregates, and mineral fillers. About 90-95% of the total 
> volume of the
> mix
> > is made up of aggregates. Surfaces that we usually 
> associate with gravel
> > buildup will usually be of a mix design that contains a 
> high percentage of
> > course aggregates, and probably a degradation of binders 
> though wear and
> > evaporation (petroleum products evaporate). There are 
> various surface
> > treatments, ranging from sprayed asphalt, asphalt seals 
> (fog seal), to
> > slurries of emulsified asphalts mixed with fine aggregates, that can
> extend
> > the life of paving by limiting water intrusion, and these 
> are particularly
> > necessary as the mix begins to disintegrate.
> >
> > I can think of no other activity that will degrade a paved 
> surface faster
> > than autocrossing on it. The aggregates are literally being 
> pulled from
> the
> > surface. Even high traffic-index truck traffic will not 
> subject a surface
> to
> > the high shear of racing cars on it. So that's where the 
> gravel comes
> from,
> > and that's why no matter how we sweep it, it reappears. It 
> is just the
> > pavement breaking down. Irreparably.
> >
> > With rough grading, but no curbs, gutters, marking, right 
> now you can
> figure
> > about $3.00 per square foot in install a medium index (for 
> large areas and
> > not a high traffic-index) parking lot. The lot at GGF to 
> use an example is
> > 550,000 SF (about 12.6 acres not counting the staging 
> area). That's works
> > out to a little over $1.6M.
> >
> > This is all pretty boring stuff but it begs a question that 
> is interesting
> > ( I've always found it very interesting anyway), namely : 
> Why would anyone
> > let us do this to their lot?
> >
> > Tony

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