I was told once that when you figure in all of the materials
and energy it takes to build a vehicle, From the strip mine to the
dealers lights, that a new car does more damage to the environment
before it reaches the showroom than in all of the miles driven after.
There is probably a conspiracy between the government and the
auto makers to prevent this from being told to the general public or the
whole world economy would suffer because we would all be driving 30 year
old cars.
Kurt Weisner
Alex Avery wrote:
>
> Actually, a new Excursion or any other large SUV, including my '97 GMC
> Sierra 2500 pickup, puts out less pollutants than even 1/2 a
> roadster--unless you count CO2 as a "pollutant" which is arguable because
> CO2 doesn't hurt anyone or anything in the short run (15% or crop yield
> increases over the last 50 years can be attributable to CO2 increases--I
> know, it's my job). So let's not start throwing stones at larger
> vehicles--they're pretty damn clean these days.
>
> Alex Avery
> Hudson Institute
>
> At 08:02 PM 10/24/00 -0400, datsunmike wrote:
> >Fred,
> >
> >You bet!!!!! None of those stinkin regulations!!!!!! The right to grossly
> >pollute is an inalienable right of every American. Whoops, we do that now
> >with Excursions!
> >
> >Mike (who never wears seatbelts in the Roadster)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us>
> >To: <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
> >Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 2:40 PM
> >Subject: Re[2]: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600)
> >
> >
> >> I didn't know they're illegal here. In the old days all the teenagers had
> >> them.
> >>
> >> As long as we're reminiscing, one of my memories of being a kid is my Dad
> >> throwing his arm out in front of me every time he'd hit the brakes to slow
> >> down for an intersection. His '54 Chevy and '59 Rambler had no seatbelts,
> >> they weren't required back then. I was afraid he was going to get a little
> >> close and clobber me with his arm, but it never happened. No airbags, no
> >> seatbelts, no headrests, kids climbing all over the seats. My Dad briefly
> >> had a Ford convertible, and me and my sisters would sit up with our rears
> >> on the trunk and our feet over the seatbacks while he drove.
> >>
> >> I think our parents generation had way more fun with cars!
> >>
> >> Fred
> >>
> >> ____________________ Reply Separator _____________________
> >> Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600)
> >> Author: svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com
> >> Date: 10/24/2000 10:54 AM
> >>
> >>
> >> My Dad used to have one of those on the steering wheel of his big ol' Ford
> >> pickup back
> >> when I was lad - "Okie power steering". They're illegal now, in California
> >at
> >> least - why
> >> I have no idea.
> >>
> >> Gary McCormick
> >> San Jose, CA
> >>
> >> Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us wrote:
> >>
> >> > [snip] Do you have one of those spinner
> >> > thingees on the steering wheel? [snip]
> >> >
> >> > Fred - So.SF
> >> >
> >> > ________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________
> >> > Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600)
> >> > Author: "Ben Zech" <motormite@hotmail.com>
> >> > Date: 10/24/2000 12:52 PM
> >> >
> >> > You are just way too coooool.
> >> > BZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: "Hall, Phillip" <Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov>
> >> > >Reply-To: "Hall, Phillip" <Phillip.Hall@msfc.nasa.gov>
> >> > >To: "'CalSpeed@aol.com'" <CalSpeed@aol.com>, Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us,
> >> > >robinkrause@hotmail.com, jason@xio.com
> >> > >CC: mtyler@hctc.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> >> > >Subject: RE: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600)
> >> > >Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:34:14 -0500
> >> > >
> >> > >It can be used as a cruise control - on my '68 I used to set it in 2 nd
> >> > >gear
> >> > >at 2500 RPM and cruise to the hot springs on a dirt road as I sat on
> >the
> >> > >roll bar and drove with my feet. Great way to enjoy the Idaho
> >> > >mountains:-)
> >> > >
> >> > >Phil
> >> > >SEROC
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: CalSpeed@aol.com [SMTP:CalSpeed@aol.com]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 7:08 PM
> >> > > To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us; robinkrause@hotmail.com;
> >> > >jason@xio.com
> >> > > Cc: mtyler@hctc.net; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> >> > > Subject: Re: Controls of unknown function ('70 1600)
> >> > >
> >> > > << Well, if you haven't used them, you don't have to worry about
> >> > >them. What I
> >> > > hear is that most folks don't bother using the throttle at all.
> >> > >Mine is
> >> > > busted and it isn't missed. It allows you to pull the accelerator
> >> > >linkage,
> >> > > and a twist locks it so the engine can be revved higher. Dangerous
> >> > >to use
> >> > > it as a cruise control - don't consider that. >>
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello,
> >> > >
> >> > > I agree. It is not to be used as a cruise control although I did
> >> > >use it as
> >> > > that when I was driving through the desolate areas of AZ and NM two
> >> > >years
> >> > > ago. I remember setting it at around 75 or so and then just
> >> > >relaxing.
> >> > > Although everytime I went up and down an incline or dip on the
> >> > >highway the
> >> > > speed would change. Sometimes drastically.
> >> > >
> >> > > No... I dont recommend it to be used that way but it sure did come
> >> > >in handy
> >> > > that summer.
> >> > >
> >> > > Calspeed
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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