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Re: oil pan clean out

To: "Thomas Walter" <twalter@austin.rr.com>, "L Jordan" <ay107@lafn.org>
Subject: Re: oil pan clean out
From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:36:20 -0500
Come on Tom, fess up. You were a young man then and could get into the
contortions needed to check the rod bearings :)

When I dropped my pan this summer it wasn't so hard but it had been on only
for a few months. The biggest problem was how to remove the last bolt w/o
getting hit on the head with the pan. Then when it was off and I was looking
to check for damage oil kept dripping on my face. I looked like a Dalmation
by the time I was finished.

One other problem when switching to detergent oil is that oil passages can
easily become clogged when years of accumulation let go.

When I removed the pan on my original engine last weekend I had the problems
you described and wacking it did no good. I ended up using a large bladed
screw driver to drive between the pan and the gasket to pry them slighlty
apart. I don't like to do it like that but it wouldn't come off otherwise
and you need to be careful not to gouge the mating surfaces as you know.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Walter" <twalter@austin.rr.com>
To: "L Jordan" <ay107@lafn.org>
Cc: "Datsun Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: oil pan clean out


> I thought I was picky, but never dropped an oil pan to clean it out! ;-)
>
> Seriously, if there is a ton of sludge build up... you are best to
> scrap out the rocker cover, and drop the oil pan and scrap it out.
> If you start using a high detergent oil in a car that ran non-detergent
> for years, it can be a mess.
>
> When all that sludge comes loose in the oil pan, it can easily
> clog up the oil pickup screen.
>
> I had an old Jeep w/ "only 80,000" miles on it. Owner didn't believe
> in detergent oil, and used just plain non-detergent 30W for years.
> When I popped off the rocker arm covers (v8) I soon discovered a
> quart of oil pouring out to the ground. Scraped the rockers, pan,
> and got most of the sludge out. After that it was running a good
> 20-50W oil and changing oil & filter once a month to remove the
> sludge that had built up in the rest of the engine. Big mess,
> finally sold it...
>
> On the roadster I have had to "whack" the oil pan with a good blow
> from a rubber mallet to get the gasket to let loose. The cork will
> dry and harden to the point the pan feels welded on! I used a dental
> tool to scrap out a good portion of the gasket, and it still took
> way too many hours to get the pan off. It is harder to remove while
> in the car, but it can be done. On U20 engines I like dropping the
> oil pan to inspect rod bearings. Cheap insurance to inspect the
> rod bearings on a U20 with unknown miles.
>
> Tom
>
>
> L Jordan wrote:
>
> > List,
> > Has anyone ever found a way to clean out the oil pan without removing
> > it? It's such a messy job and it appears that the gasket is "fixed"
> > pretty well to the pan and block that if there was an easier way to go
> > about it I thought I'd ask.
> > thanks,
> > Linda
>
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