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Re: lube torqued fasteners?

To: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
Subject: Re: lube torqued fasteners?
From: "Michael D. Porter" <portermd@zianet.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:12:25 -0700
Jack W. Drews wrote:


> result in a higher tension in the bolt. Furthermore, good practice on 
> setting a torque value is to stress the bolt to 80% of its yield.

Most everyone has answered the question about lubed vs. unlubed torques, but I 
think I need to clarify this business of 
torquing to 80% of yield. I'm sure there are exceptions, both in specific 
instances and by manufacturer, but the GM 
engineering standard for fastener preload, as I recall, is 80% of _proof load_. 
Proof load is defined by GM as 75% of 
yield. That means that GM sized and graded fasteners to nominally 60% of yield 
(80% x 75%).

Which means, simply, that once the maximum load is determined, the fastener 
must be able to provide a clamping preload 
to exceed the load by a suitable safety factor (about 1.5) _and_ the fastener 
itself had to be sized/graded to reach 
that figure at nominally 60% of yield strength.

That may sound like overkill, but it resulted in very few fastener failures, if 
good procedures were followed (I'm not 
saying that this engineering procedure protected the product from assembly line 
errors).

Structural and civil engineering standards are to preload to 2/3rds of yield. I 
think the difference is that the 
accelerations of dynamic loads upon fixed structures is relatively smaller than 
in automotive applications.

Preload is preload, whether it's provided by a big fastener or a small 
fastener--the difference is in the preload safety 
factor. Although I can't come up with a definitive source for this feeling of 
mine, I think fasteners subject to 
cyclical loads are more likely to fail from fatigue the closer they're 
preloaded to their yield point. That's the 
distinct advantage of ARP fasteners--their yield point is so high that they can 
provide a superior clamp load at a 
relatively low percentage of yield strength. As well, because of Young's 
modulus, they provide that higher clamping 
force with small elongation--an important consideration, I think, for fatigue 
strength.

All that said, I have no idea about what engineering standards were used by 
Standard-Triumph to calculate the clamp 
loads and torques for the wet-sleeve engine. Without a good idea of the grade 
of fastener being used, it's not easy to 
determine. Would be fun to take the standard torque/clamp load formula and work 
backwards from the torques provided in 
the Triumph manual. For what it's worth, the factory manual doesn't mention 
lubricating the stock cylinder head studs or 
nuts, or the rod bolts, before tightening.

Cheers.

-- 
Michael D. Porter
Roswell, NM

Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.

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