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Don=E2=80=99t most motorcycles that share oil between the engine and =
gearbox use dog gear engagement? The label on the Honda synthetic =
motorcycle oil I have been using in my NSU 1200 engine (practically a =
motorcycle engine anyhow) touts its favorable effect on dog gears. Of =
course, that left me wondering what its effect on synchromesh would be, =
so I wondered whether it would be appropriate for my Mini Cooper S race =
engine/gearbox combo.
I have have heard good things about Redline Shock Proof Gear Oil=E2=80=99s=
ability to keep gearbox temperatures down: =
https://www.redlineoil.com/shockproof-gear-oils =
<https://www.redlineoil.com/shockproof-gear-oils> . The literature =
suggests that it creates less drag compared to other oils of the same =
viscosity rating. I use it in the gearbox of the NSU racer but have =
made no attempt to measure how hot it gets with any type of oil.
Duncan
Ps: I=E2=80=99ve been using 30 weight non-detergent oil in the Moss =
gearbox in my Morgan but that=E2=80=99s an unusual gearbox with rather =
balky steel synchro materials. The redline product I tried gave about =
the same shift feel but the synchromesh oil (AC Delco 10-4014) gave a =
slight improvement in feel and synchro action. =20
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:25 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot =
> Like most TR racers I believe that an overdrive gearbox is worth some =
laptime on most racetracks. But there are some drawbacks :9.5kgs weight =
penalty and the gap between 4th gear and 4th overdrive gear is too big. =
There is also a considerable amount of power loss when the overdrive is =
engaged because of the friction in the overdrive gears : but I think =
that in general modern engine oil can reduce the friction in the =
overdrive, compared to GL-4 gear oil, because it has much better =
friction modifiers. But are these friction modifiers compatible with the =
clutch in the overdrive?? Classic Mini's and most bikes have 1 oil pan =
for both engine and gearbox : what about using a modern bike oil or a =
modern (synthetic) classic mini oil in an overdrive gearbox to reduce =
the friction in the overdrive and gain some acceleration when 4th =
overdrive gear is engaged?
> Marcel
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charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
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class=3D"">Don=E2=80=99t most motorcycles that share oil between the =
engine and gearbox use dog gear engagement? The label on the Honda =
synthetic motorcycle oil I have been using in my NSU 1200 engine =
(practically a motorcycle engine anyhow) touts its favorable effect on =
dog gears. Of course, that left me wondering what its effect on =
synchromesh would be, so I wondered whether it would be appropriate for =
my Mini Cooper S race engine/gearbox combo.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I have have heard good things about =
Redline Shock Proof Gear Oil=E2=80=99s ability to keep gearbox =
temperatures down: <a =
href=3D"https://www.redlineoil.com/shockproof-gear-oils"; =
class=3D"">https://www.redlineoil.com/shockproof-gear-oils</a> . =
The literature suggests that it creates less drag compared to =
other oils of the same viscosity rating. I use it in the gearbox =
of the NSU racer but have made no attempt to measure how hot it gets =
with any type of oil.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Duncan</div><div class=3D"">Ps: I=E2=80=99ve been using =
30 weight non-detergent oil in the Moss gearbox in my Morgan but =
that=E2=80=99s an unusual gearbox with rather balky steel synchro =
materials. The redline product I tried gave about the same shift =
feel but the synchromesh oil (AC Delco 10-4014) gave a slight =
improvement in feel and synchro action. </div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: =
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 9:25 AM van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot <</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" class=3D"" =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: =
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data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt; color: #000000;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Like most =
TR racers I believe that an overdrive gearbox is worth some laptime on =
most racetracks. But there are some drawbacks :9.5kgs weight penalty and =
the gap between 4th gear and 4th overdrive gear is too big. There is =
also a considerable amount of power loss when the overdrive is engaged =
because of the friction in the overdrive gears : but I think that in =
general modern engine oil can reduce the friction in the overdrive, =
compared to GL-4 gear oil, because it has much better friction =
modifiers. But are these friction modifiers compatible with the clutch =
in the overdrive?? Classic Mini's and most bikes have 1 oil pan for both =
engine and gearbox : what about using a modern bike oil or a modern =
(synthetic) classic mini oil in an overdrive gearbox to reduce the =
friction in the overdrive and gain some acceleration when 4th overdrive =
gear is engaged?</div><div =
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