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Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
From: Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:33:42 -0400
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What is this =E2=80=9CFord rod=E2=80=9D you speak of ?
Inquiring minds want to know
Mike

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:21 PM <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the
> secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.
>
>
>
> *Von:* tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18
> *An:* 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; '
> tr4racing@googlemail.com' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <
> fot@autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> my engine is really nothing special.
>
> Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford
> Rods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 4=
8
> Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.
>
> My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do ver=
y
> fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.
>
> There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4th =
because
> I accidently overtook under yellow)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Michael Deweerd <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>
>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54
> *An:* tr4racing@googlemail.com
> *Cc:* Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com>; fot@autox. team. net <
> fot@autox.team.net>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
>
>
>
> Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!!  175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve no=
t had my
> new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that num=
ber Of ponies.
>
> We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=
=9D here in Canada that
> need squashing lol
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight
> corners.
>
> But Triumphs do better from my experience.
>
> My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster tha=
n
> a MG.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com>
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11
> *An:* MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
> *Betreff:* Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
>
>
>
> I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars.
> EXCEPT we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the
> engine (bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.  I also think
>  the MG's are  a lot lighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a
> corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start
> with than thee TR-4 engine.  Way back in years I built MG engines and the=
y
> were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.
>
> *Never be beaten by equipment.*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Very well driven.
>
>
>
> Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?
>
> Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)
>
>
>
> What power do they make?
>
> Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190
> Hp range.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Another Grattan video.  Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB
>
> and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.  13 minutes of full-on racin=
g.
>
>
>
> https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c
>
>
>
> Cheers, Tony Drews
>
>
>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">What is this =E2=80=9CFord rod=E2=80=9D you speak of=
 ?=C2=A0</div></div><div dir=3D"auto">Inquiring minds want to know=C2=A0</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Mike=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 1:21 PM &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;bord=
er-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"=
purple"><div class=3D"m_-8013549311194428729WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=
=E2=80=A6.225Nm.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><div><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;=
padding:3pt 0cm 0cm;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> <a href=3D"mailto=
:tr4racing@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@gmail.com</a> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tr4racing@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> &#3=
9;Michael Deweerd&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt;; &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
4racing@googlemail.com" target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&#39;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racin=
g@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> &#39;Kas Kastner&#39; &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt=
;; &#39;fot@autox. team. net&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] =
Grattan race 2<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Mike,<u></u=
><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">my engine is really nothing special.=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Standard crank, standard valves, g=
ood ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I remember Tony has organized th=
em for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.<u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My car is handling great. With good brake pad=
s the standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars a=
t front and rear.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There you have it=
. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> because =
I accidently overtook under yellow)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4"; target=3D"_blank=
">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4</a><u></u><u></u></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/p><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:=
3pt 0cm 0cm;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michaelndeweerd@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; <br></span></p></div></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=
=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_-8013549311194428729WordSection1=
"><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3=
pt 0cm 0cm;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D"DE"><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b=
> <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@g=
ooglemail.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastne=
r@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. tea=
m. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! =C2=A017=
5-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t=
 think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of ponies.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We should talk because there are some =
=E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squashing lol=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike=C2=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none non=
e solid;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.=
8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ye=
p, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corners.=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But Triumphs do better from my exp=
erience.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My TR4 with 88mm bore is d=
oing quite well and is on most cases faster than a MG.<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></=
u></p><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;paddi=
ng:3pt 0cm 0cm;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b=
><span lang=3D"DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Kas Kastner &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a=
>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br><b>An:</b> =
MadMarx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank">t=
r4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=
</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the same thing here with=C2=A0good Mg&=
#39;s quicker than=C2=A0the TR-4 cars.=C2=A0 EXCEPT=C2=A0we have a couple T=
R-4&#39;s that are better prepared=C2=A0with the engine=C2=A0(bigger) and t=
hey are much better than the M.G.&#39;s.=C2=A0 I also think =C2=A0the MG&#3=
9;s are=C2=A0 a lot lighter=C2=A0in weight=C2=A0for all seem very quick out=
 of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to sta=
rt with than thee TR-4 engine.=C2=A0 Way back in years I built MG engines=
=C2=A0and they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.<br clea=
r=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p><strong><span style=3D"font-family=
:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Never be beaten by equipment.</span=
></strong><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u=
><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></di=
v><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 A=
M Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div>=
</div><div><div><div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none none solid=
;border-left-width:1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;bor=
der-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very=
 well driven.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that qui=
ck?<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Normally Triumphs eat MGs and P=
orsches for Breakfast ;-)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What power do they make?<u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, whil=
e TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp range.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:=
54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><block=
quote style=3D"border-style:none none none solid;border-left-width:1pt;padd=
ing:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin:5pt 0cm 5pt 4.8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,=
204)"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Another Grattan v=
ideo.=C2=A0 Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br><br>and Micha=
el Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.=C2=A0 13 minutes of full-on racing.<br>=
<br><br><br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c"; target=3D"_blank">http=
s://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers, Tony Drews<br><br><br><=
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