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To: Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] On the topic of oils
From: I Erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 13:14:01 -0700
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I'm feeling charitable in that maybe these issues resurface due to new
members of the list, a lack of understanding of how to use the the archives
or the archives are down. Like I said charitable. There other most likely
more obvious reasons, but for today,I'll go with those.
Cheers

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
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     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Oudesluys <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:

>  Hear, hear!!
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
>
> editorgary@aol.com schreef op 11-6-2015 om 23:57:
>
> I'm wondering if the 17-year-locusts and the topic of What oil?, subtopic
> weight, subtopic synthetic, subtopic ZDDP, both seem to crawl out of the
> ground at about the same regularity. The topics come up, they are beat to
> death with the same old myths and old-wives tales, and eventually they go
> back to ground, only to arise again several years later.
>
>  So,
> Here is the beginning, middle, and end of the gospel.
>
>  ZDDP as an additive is only important when an newly rebuild engine is
> being broken in.
>
>  Synthetic oil is an unnecessary expense.
>
>  Oil in old cars should be changed once every year.
>
>  Oil in old cars should be in the 20W50 range.
>
>  That's all you need to know.
>
>  Oh, Pat Quinn is probably right regarding 30 weight non-detergent oil in
> Healey transmissions because of their slightly weird design using a magnet
> and a coarse screen in the bottom of the drain.
>
>  And none of the above applies to cars being raced with rpm routinely
> over 4000. You and your mechanics have figured out answers that suit you,
> and if your mechanic is older than you are, trust him.
>
>  Any other answer is either being promoted by a manufacturer selling a
> blend of snake oil, profiteering, and engine oil or someone who
> believes everything they find on the internet regardless of source or age.
>
>  That's it; end of story. Don't make me pull out the hundreds of
> references supporting this gospel because I won't.
>
> *Gary Anderson*
>  *Editor at Large, Austin-Healey Magazine*
>
>
>
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>    1. Re: oil weight
> (Albert Seminatore)
>    2. Re: oil weight (Michael Oritt)
>    3. Updated Austin
> Healey website (Magnus Karlsson)
>    4. Re: oil weight (Richard Collins)
>    5.
> Re: oil weight (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
>    6. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
>
> 7. Re: oil weight (Patrick & Caroline Quinn)
>    8. More on windows (Stephen
> Hutchings)
>    9. Re: oil weight (Mitch)
>   10. Re: overflow tank idea (Larry
> Wendland)
>   11. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
>   12. Re: oil weight (Patrick &
> Caroline Quinn)
>   13. Re: oil weight (Alan Seigrist)
>   14. Re: More on windows
> (Alan Seigrist)
>   15. Re: More on windows (Bob Spidell)
>   16. Re: oil weight
> (Chris Dimmock)
>   17. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
>   18. Re: oil weight (Derek
> Job)
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">I&#=
39;m feeling charitable in that maybe these issues resurface due to new mem=
bers of the list, a lack of understanding of how to use the the archives or=
 the archives are down. Like I said charitable. There other most likely mor=
e obvious reasons, but for today,I&#39;ll go with those.</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Cheers</div></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 _______=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______<br>=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)<br></div></div></div></div></div><=
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<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Oudesluys <=
span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
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    <div>Hear, hear!!<br>
      <br>
      Kees Oudesluijs<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <a href=3D"mailto:editorgary@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">editorgary@ao=
l.com</a> schreef op 11-6-2015 om 23:57:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      I&#39;m wondering if the 17-year-locusts and the topic of What oil?,
      subtopic weight, subtopic synthetic, subtopic ZDDP, both seem to
      crawl out of the ground at about the same regularity. The topics
      come up, they are beat to death with the same old myths and
      old-wives tales, and eventually they go back to ground, only to
      arise again several years later.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>So,=C2=A0</div>
      <div>Here is the beginning, middle, and end of the gospel.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>ZDDP as an additive is only important when an newly rebuild
        engine is being broken in.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Synthetic oil is an unnecessary expense.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Oil in old cars should be changed once every year.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Oil in old cars should be in the 20W50 range.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>That&#39;s all you need to know.=C2=A0</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Oh, Pat Quinn is probably right regarding 30 weight
        non-detergent oil in Healey transmissions because of their
        slightly weird design using a magnet and a coarse screen in the
        bottom of the drain.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>And none of the above applies to cars being raced with rpm
        routinely over 4000. You and your mechanics have figured out
        answers that suit you, and if your mechanic is older than you
        are, trust him.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Any other answer is either being promoted by a manufacturer
        selling a blend of snake oil, profiteering, and engine oil or
        someone who believes=C2=A0everything they find on the internet
        regardless of source or age.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>That&#39;s it; end of story. Don&#39;t make me pull out the hund=
reds
        of references supporting this gospel because I won&#39;t.<br>
        <br>
        <div><i>Gary Anderson</i><br>
        </div>
        <div><i>Editor at Large, Austin-Healey Magazine</i></div>
        <div><i><br>
          </i></div>
        <div><i><br>
          </i></div>
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Today&#39;s Topics:

   1. Re: oil weight
(Albert Seminatore)
   2. Re: oil weight (Michael Oritt)
   3. Updated Austin
Healey website (Magnus Karlsson)
   4. Re: oil weight (Richard Collins)
   5.
Re: oil weight (Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn)
   6. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
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7. Re: oil weight (Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn)
   8. More on windows (Stephen
Hutchings)
   9. Re: oil weight (Mitch)
  10. Re: overflow tank idea (Larry
Wendland)
  11. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
  12. Re: oil weight (Patrick &amp;
Caroline Quinn)
  13. Re: oil weight (Alan Seigrist)
  14. Re: More on windows
(Alan Seigrist)
  15. Re: More on windows (Bob Spidell)
  16. Re: oil weight
(Chris Dimmock)
  17. Re: oil weight (Bob Spidell)
  18. Re: oil weight (Derek
Job)


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