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Mike
While I am not as experienced regarding restoring and repairing Healeys as y=
ou and so many on this list when I reviewed the features and benefits mentio=
ned in the tech spec and saw they were using thixotropic and polymeric prope=
rties I was convinced they were able to improve on classic lube mixes becau=
se solder and thread compounds paste type products I sold to industry for ma=
ny years used such technology. They were created by a u of Chicago phd. As y=
ou all will see if you look at the video in a semi liquid state sticks to th=
e gear surfaces when lube is needed If my steering box becomes a leaker will=
try JD grease first before disassembly.
Regards
Bob Begani
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.
> I have watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it h=
as definitely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes=
so many years ago.
> Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a leaking steering b=
ox I intend to give it to try.
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> From: Auto Farm
> Sent: =E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 7:04 p.m.
> To: 'Michael'; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>=20
> Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is no=
t a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, the J=
ohn Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite different and=
specifically designed for gearboxes. It is formulated for gear teeth under=
much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever encounter, and covers t=
he teeth with a visible oily coating. We have been using it for several yea=
rs with very good results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking=
.
> Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.
> =20
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael=
> Sent: June-15-15 8:11 AM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
> =20
> With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease i=
s not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
> The reason is very simple.
> The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded=
faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
> That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> From: Tom Felts
> Sent: =E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>=20
> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front=
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>=20
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and i=
s not moving.
>=20
> I noted this same condition on my E-Type also. =20
>=20
> I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs. =20
>=20
> It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.
>=20
> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and fo=
und that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit flus=
h with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn. Their sol=
ution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.
>=20
> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you d=
etermine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>=20
> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)=
and the dust excluder has disintegrated. Is it possible to replace these 2=
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut a=
nd steering lever?
>=20
> Thanks for any help.
>=20
> tom
> 65 BJ8
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Mike</div><div><br></div><div>While I a=
m not as experienced regarding restoring and repairing Healeys as you and so=
many on this list when I reviewed the features and benefits mentioned in th=
e tech spec and saw they were using thixotropic and polymeric properties I w=
as convinced they were able to improve on classic lube mixes because s=
older and thread compounds paste type products I sold to industry for many y=
ears used such technology. They were created by a u of Chicago phd. As=
you all will see if you look at the video in a semi liquid state sticks to t=
he gear surfaces when lube is needed If my steering box becomes a leaker wil=
l try JD grease first before disassembly.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</=
div><div><br></div><div>Bob Begani<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>=
On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:11 PM, Michael <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gm=
ail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote ty=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.<br>I ha=
ve watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it has def=
initely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes so ma=
ny years ago.<br>Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a le=
aking steering box I intend to give it to try.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:autofarm@wightman.c=
a">Auto Farm</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015=
7:04 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-si=
ze: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>'=
Michael'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 1=
1pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri=
,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Que=
stions--BJ8</span><br><br></div><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;"> =
Mike, while I would w=
hole heartedly agree that grease is not a good lubricant for steering boxes,=
or any gearbox for that matter, the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 tha=
t is refered to is quite different and specifically designed for gearboxes.&=
nbsp; It is formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steer=
ing boxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coat=
ing. We have been using it for several years with very good results an=
d no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "=
;Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Y=
ule Autofarm Ltd.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif&=
quot;; font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"bord=
er-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rg=
b(181, 196, 223) currentColor currentColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-ima=
ge: none;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-fami=
ly: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span=
></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: "Tahoma","san=
s-serif"; font-size: 10pt;"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces=
@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif&q=
uot;; font-size: 11pt;">With all due respects to those recommending it for s=
teering boxes grease is not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precisi=
on gearbox.<br>The reason is very simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth w=
ill displace the lubricant from the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a=
liquid to be replenished.<br>That is why the designers went to all the trou=
ble of installing a seal.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v></div><div><div align=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align: c=
enter;"><hr width=3D"100%" size=3D"3" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span style=3D"font-family: "=
Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">From: </span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-si=
ze: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>Tom Felts</a></span><b=
r><b><span style=3D"font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";=
font-size: 11pt;">Sent: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family: "Calibr=
i","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=
=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.</span><br><b><span style=3D"font-family: "Calibri&=
quot;,"sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">To: </span></b><span style=3D=
"font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">=
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a></span><=
br><b><span style=3D"font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"=
; font-size: 11pt;">Subject: </span></b><span style=3D"font-family: "Ca=
libri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;">[Healeys] Steering Box=
and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have recently been hearing a "pop pop"=
noise coming from the right front suspension area when making a slow full r=
ight turn.<br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is o=
n concrete and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Typ=
e also. <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new h=
ubs. <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines=
.<br><br>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem=
and found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not f=
it flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.&nbs=
p; Their solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their=
problem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so=
what did you determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Quest=
ion #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and th=
e dust excluder has disintegrated. Is it possible to replace these 2 i=
tems while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut an=
d steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>______=
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