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Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

To: "'David Nock'" <healeydoc@gmail.com>, "'Roger Grace'" <roggrace@telus.net>, "'Mitch'" <dayton21@comcast.net>, "'Healey List'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING
From: "Niels Bengaard" <bengaard@850r.dk>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:13:33 +0200
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I have the same problem setting my ignition. These other type of wires =
how do you get them, are they standard from another car?=20

Preferably a European supplier.

=20

Niels

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Fra: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] P=C3=A5 vegne af =
David Nock
Sendt: 6. juli 2015 17:09
Til: Roger Grace; Mitch; Healey List
Emne: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

=20

First problem is that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick =
up the magnetic field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get =
rid of the Steel core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause =
problems with the timing light also they will also cause problems with =
the electronic ignition and will cause pre mature failure.=20

=20

Try putting the pick up on the #6  plug wire.

=20

=20

David Nock
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

=20


Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM


Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

=20

Just a caution that if you are using of of the newer =
=E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=9D timing lights with this set up you are likely =
to have problems.=20

I have a new Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. earth =
on my 67 BJ8

I decided to buy a decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing =
light.

Phew - lots of problems and the light would not move as it was supposed =
to.

Eventually had to get complete set of new plug leads just to get it to =
sort of function.

Unit went back 3x and even today is a mystery if it will work or not.

It is ultra sensitive to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on =
plug #1

Moving it and inch can make the unit inoperable and erratic.

The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure the problem for =
me .... grrr

rg


Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM



Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

=20

I set the timing at 15 deg.btdc   at 650 r.p.m.    now I have to adjust. =
carbs   .....they were rebuilt, again.....thanks Mitch

=20

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coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] HELP............TIMING

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Start the engine and let it idle until warm or drive a few miles to that =
purpose.
Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.
Set the dial to the required advance at idling with the vacuum line =
attached (see your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and =
position the clamp on Nr.1 plug lead.
Loosen the distributor clamp.
Set the distributor to TDC on the marks.
Tighten the clamp, not to tight.
Recheck.
It is that simple.

WATCH OUT though for moving parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo =
pulleys/belts.
Kees Oudesluijs



Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om 15:51:

Hello ,

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I have a 1966 bj8.......I have just replaced my original Lucas =
distributer with a new Pertronics distributer .........I turned the =
engine until the pointer was on the tdc mark on the pulley (on the =
compression stroke) and put the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in =
the dist. cap................NOW what do I do? I have a timing light =
with the degree dial on the back,...............what are the next steps =
to set the timing correctly?? do I plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I =
have to start the engine??? etc.................................sorry =
for all the questions

=20

Mitch





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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I have the same problem setting my ignition. These other type of =
wires how do you get them, are they standard from another car? =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Preferably a European supplier.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Niels<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Fra:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>P=C3=A5 vegne af =
</b>David Nock<br><b>Sendt:</b> 6. juli 2015 17:09<br><b>Til:</b> Roger =
Grace; Mitch; Healey List<br><b>Emne:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>First problem is =
that if you are using the number 1 plug you will pick up the magnetic =
field from the ignition coil. Then you also need to get rid of the Steel =
core plug wires. For two reasons first they will cause problems with the =
timing light also they will also cause problems with the electronic =
ignition and will cause pre mature failure. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>Try putting the pick =
up on the #6&nbsp; plug wire.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif";color:black'>David Nock<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>20=
9 948 8767<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.c=
om</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; =
title=3D"roggrace@telus.net">Roger Grace</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Sent:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Sunday, July 05, 2015 10:07 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
To:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net"; =
title=3D"dayton21@comcast.net">Mitch</a> ; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Healey List</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Subject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Just a caution that if =
you are using of of the newer =E2=80=9Cdigital=E2=80=9D timing lights =
with this set up you are likely to have problems. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I have a new =
Pertronics distributor, flame thrower coil, and neg. earth on my 67 =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>I decided to buy a =
decent quality Innova 5568 modern digital timing =
light.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Phew - lots of =
problems and the light would not move as it was supposed =
to.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Eventually had to get =
complete set of new plug leads just to get it to sort of =
function.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Unit went back 3x and =
even today is a mystery if it will work or =
not.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>It is ultra sensitive =
to noise and position of the magnetic pick up on plug =
#1<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Moving it and inch can =
make the unit inoperable and erratic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>The manufacturer is also at a loss and not able to cure =
the problem for me .... grrr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>rg<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net"; =
title=3D"dayton21@comcast.net">Mitch</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Sent:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:57 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
To:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; =
title=3D"coudesluijs@chello.nl">Oudesluys</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Cc:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">HEALEY</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
Subject:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>=
 Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I set the timing =
at 15 deg.btdc&nbsp;&nbsp; at 650 r.p.m.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; now I have to =
adjust. carbs&nbsp;&nbsp; .....they were rebuilt, again.....thanks =
Mitch<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3D3 =
width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter id=3Dzwchr></span></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From: =
</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&quot;Oudesluy=
s&quot; &lt;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl";><span =
lang=3DEN-US>coudesluijs@chello.nl</span></a></span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&gt;<br><b>To:=
 </b></span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><span =
lang=3DEN-US>healeys@autox.team.net</span></a></span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Sunday, July 5, 2015 11:31:05 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] =
HELP............TIMING<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o=
:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br></span><sp=
an style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Start the =
engine and let it idle until warm or drive a few miles to that =
purpose.<br>Set the idling speed at around 800-900rpm.<br>Set the dial =
to the required advance at idling with the vacuum line attached (see =
your workshop manual). Connect up to the battery and position the clamp =
on Nr.1 plug lead.<br>Loosen the distributor clamp.<br>Set the =
distributor to TDC on the marks.<br>Tighten the clamp, not to =
tight.<br>Recheck.<br>It is that simple.<br><br>WATCH OUT though for =
moving parts like the fan and water pump/dynamo pulleys/belts.<br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br>Mitch schreef op 5-7-2015 om =
15:51:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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the rotor pointing at the #1 spark plug in the dist. =
cap................NOW what do I do? I have a timing light with the =
degree dial on the back,...............what are the next steps to set =
the timing correctly?? do I plug the vacuum, what degrees,do I have to =
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