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To: Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem
From: healey53 <healey53@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:09:57 -0400
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Michael=20

  I vote that you found it.  I had a similar problem on a '65 corvette, it w=
ould die and start when it felt like it.   Bubba had wrapped a wire loosely a=
round the running terminal of the ballast resistor and then taped over it so=
 you couldn't find it.  That was 5 years ago and since correcting the connec=
tion it has perfectly.

Joe
BN1 #923 Coronet Cream
BN2 100M
BJ8 aka Blue Baby per wife and kids

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 16, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Well here is what I found.
> The brown wire that runs from the starter solenoid to the "A" terminal of t=
he voltage regulator had come out but was resting on the terminal screw. I r=
e installed that wire and the engine started immediately and seemed to run p=
erfectly on a short 2 mile test drive...I didn't have time to do a prolonged=
 drive before loading and departing for Enclave....
> Do you think I have it?
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> Michael S
> BN1 #174
> From: Bob Haskell
> Sent: =E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E07/=E2=80=8E2015 6:00 p.m.
> To: Michael Salter; healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem
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> Intermittent grounding of the coil to cut-off switch wire?
>=20
> Bob Haskell
> AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar
> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
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> On 07/16/2015 02:32 PM, Michael Salter wrote:
> > I have done the following;
> >
> > STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM
> >
> > This car has an original cap, original wires, original NA8 spark plugs,
> > original black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not to change
> > any of these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that that
> > item is the source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!
> >
> > After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... the engine started t=
o run
> > very badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a warm but not
> > hot day after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough road under
> > construction eventually stopping completely as I tried to climb a hill.
> > Sounded to be running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiring through
> > exhaust=E2=80=A6 no throttle response.
> >
> > Cranked but would not start..Appeared to have spark at the coil wire..
> >
> > Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd miles stopped with t=
he same
> > symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no difference.
> >
> > Could not hear fuelpump ticking but had fuel pressure at the front
> > carb=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6good spark at coil wire=E2=80=A6spark at plugs loo=
ked thin =E2=80=A6Changed the
> > condenser and the rotor and it started reluctantly and ran well for
> > about 15 miles then stopped again=E2=80=A6.same symptoms=E2=80=A6.change=
d rotor=E2=80=A6ran for
> > 2 miles same symptoms=E2=80=A6
> >
> > Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=80=9D washers under the carb float chamber strut=
s which I think
> > could be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=80=A6
> >
> > Next day, today, I headed out for another extended drive and the car ran=

> > perfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the problem after
> > 36 miles and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=80=A6.i=
t
> > actually died as I approached our driveway and I coasted in with the
> > ignition turned off.Nothing would make it start.
> >
> > Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. Took off the float
> > chamber lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine cranked=

> > but would just not start..
> >
> > After checking everything I could think of I believe that I have found
> > the problem but I don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test bef=
ore
> > loading the car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6
> >
> > What do you think I found?
> >
> >
> > Michael..
> >
> > --
> > /If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem./
> >
> >
> >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Michael&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div=
>&nbsp; I vote that you found it. &nbsp;I had a similar problem on a '65 cor=
vette, it would die and start when it felt like it. &nbsp; Bubba had wrapped=
 a wire loosely around the running terminal of the ballast resistor and then=
 taped over it so you couldn't find it. &nbsp;That was 5 years ago and since=
 correcting the connection it has perfectly.</div><div><br></div><div>Joe</d=
iv><div>BN1 #923 Coronet Cream</div><div>BN2 100M</div><div>BJ8 aka Blue Bab=
y per wife and kids<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jul 16, 2015, a=
t 8:09 PM, Michael &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.s=
alter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><=
meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div=
><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Well here i=
s what I found.<br>The brown wire that runs from the starter solenoid to the=
 "A" terminal of the voltage regulator had come out but was resting on the t=
erminal screw. I re installed that wire and the engine started immediately a=
nd seemed to run perfectly on a short 2 mile test drive...I didn't have time=
 to do a prolonged drive before loading and departing for Enclave....<br>Do y=
ou think I have it?<br><br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-w=
eight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; f=
ont-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";>Bob Haskell</a><=
/span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; f=
ont-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-ser=
if; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E16/=E2=80=8E07/=E2=80=8E2015 6:00 p.m.</span>=
<br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-we=
ight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font=
-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>Michael Salter</a>;=
 <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a></span>=
<br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-we=
ight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;=
 font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Healeys] #174 has a running problem</span><br><br></=
div>Intermittent grounding of the coil to cut-off switch wire?<br><br>Bob Ha=
skell<br>AHCA 3000 Mk I registrar<br><a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registr=
y_3000mk1.php">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br><br>On 07/16=
/2015 02:32 PM, Michael Salter wrote:<br>&gt; I have done the following;<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; STEPS TAKEN TO FIND RUNNING PROBLEM<br>&gt;<br>&gt; This car ha=
s an original cap, original wires, original NA8 spark plugs,<br>&gt; origina=
l black coil, original fuel pump. I am determined not to change<br>&gt; any o=
f these original parts unless I can confirm definitely that that<br>&gt; ite=
m is the source of the problems=E2=80=A6it a concours issue!!<br>&gt;<br>&gt=
; After many short trips 10 =E2=80=93 15 miles etc... the engine started to r=
un<br>&gt; very badly after 35 odd miles of a longer test drive on a warm bu=
t not<br>&gt; hot day after travelling over a few hundred meters of rough ro=
ad under<br>&gt; construction eventually stopping completely as I tried to c=
limb a hill.<br>&gt; Sounded to be running on 2 cylinders at times. Backfiri=
ng through<br>&gt; exhaust=E2=80=A6 no throttle response.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cr=
anked but would not start..Appeared to have spark at the coil wire..<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; Affer cooling started out again=E2=80=A6after 20 odd miles stopped w=
ith the same<br>&gt; symptoms=E2=80=A6 pulling choke seemed to make no diffe=
rence.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Could not hear fuelpump ticking but had fuel pressure=
 at the front<br>&gt; carb=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6good spark at coil wire=E2=80=A6=
spark at plugs looked thin =E2=80=A6Changed the<br>&gt; condenser and the ro=
tor and it started reluctantly and ran well for<br>&gt; about 15 miles then s=
topped again=E2=80=A6.same symptoms=E2=80=A6.changed rotor=E2=80=A6ran for<b=
r>&gt; 2 miles same symptoms=E2=80=A6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Found =E2=80=9C3 cut=E2=
=80=9D washers under the carb float chamber struts which I think<br>&gt; cou=
ld be sealing off the vent slots for the float chambers=E2=80=A6<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt; Next day, today, I headed out for another extended drive and the car ra=
n<br>&gt; perfectly on a similar day for 36 miles then repeated the problem a=
fter<br>&gt; 36 miles and I just managed to nurse it home another 11 miles=E2=
=80=A6.it<br>&gt; actually died as I approached our driveway and I coasted i=
n with the<br>&gt; ignition turned off.Nothing would make it start.<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Tested the coil 4.6 ohms with no short to ground. Took off the float=
<br>&gt; chamber lids and both were full to the correct level. The engine cr=
anked<br>&gt; but would just not start..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; After checking ever=
ything I could think of I believe that I have found<br>&gt; the problem but I=
 don=E2=80=99t have time to do another 36 mile test before<br>&gt; loading t=
he car to take to Enclave=E2=80=A6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; What do you think I found=
?<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Michael..<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br>&gt; /If you can't=
 fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem./<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br=
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