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If you are worried about galvanic corrosion, copper gaskets are far worse
for aluminum than steel!
Yeah, if you can get MLS gaskets for our cars now (I didn't know you
could), use it for sure!!!
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:09 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
wrote:
>
>
> Gary,
>
> I've had a chronic problem keeping head gaskets in my 2660. A standard
> gasket would last a couple months before it burned in two between #2 and #3
> cylinders. I bought a solid copper gasket and it solved the burn through
> problem, but it was impossible to seal the oil and water passages so I've
> long had massive oil leaks and oil contaminating the coolant. I've tried
> o-ringing the oil and water passages which helped somewhat but didn't last.
> I recently experienced a burned piston and so am rebuilding the engine. (I
> drove it as long as I could before pulling the engine.) The machinist who
> milled the top of the block said that it resembled a ski jump. The block
> was low on one corner and he had to take 0.012" off of it to make it flat.
> That explains a lot. It also displayed very poor workmanship by the last
> machine shop having a very heavy and irregular tool pattern that militated
> against gasket sealing.
>
> In researching theoretical fixes for head gasket problems I took to the
> internet and read up on the new technology which is the MLS gasket. Multi
> Layer Steel gaskets consist of three layers of steel with their outer faces
> coated with a resilient teflon layer that is the actual sealing medium. The
> three layers of steel can slide over each other to a certain extent
> allowing the head and block to expand differentially in relation to one
> another without stressing or damaging the gasket. The resilient layer seals
> and fills unevenness in the mating surfaces. in order to work the mating
> surfaces have to be machined very smooth (to a maximum roughness average
> (RA) of 60). Fortunately that is the standard for most engines these days
> anyway and is easily done. I'm in the middle of the rebuild now and I've
> purchased an MLS gasket from Denis Welch Motorsport. They claim it solves
> the gasket leakage problems that are so common on the 4 cylinder and it can
> be reused twice in most cases. With a smooth flat engine block, a modern
> high tech gasket and a good rebuilt cylinder head (Needs a crack repair of
> course.) I'm hoping to see a lot of miles disappearing in my rear view
> mirrors again soon. And maybe even gain a little control my oil consumption.
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:52:47 -0400
> From: warthodson@aol.com
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] head gaskets
>
> I thought I could get a good argument started on the subject of head
> gaskets. AH Spares recently announced that they are offering multi-layered
> all steel head gaskets for Healeys. Suitable for both competition & street
> engines and aluminum heads to cast iron or aluminum blocks. Presumably,
> also cast iron heads, but the ad did not state that.
> I know they are not alone in offering improved head gaskets.
> Being a cynic, I have to wonder if steel gaskets are really better that
> copper gaskets or are they just cheaper to manufacture?
> Being an engineer, I have to wonder if a steel gasket is really a good
> choice for an aluminum head, especially in the sealing ring area around the
> cylinders?
> Gary Hodson
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If you are worried about galvanic corrosion, copper gasket=
s are far worse for aluminum than steel!<div><br></div><div>Yeah, if you ca=
n get MLS gaskets for our cars now (I didn't know you could), use it fo=
r sure!!!</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 11:09 AM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">yno=
tink@msn.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><br><div>Gary,</div><div><br></div><div>I've =
had a chronic problem keeping head gaskets in my 2660. A standard gasket wo=
uld last a couple months before it burned in two between #2 and #3 cylinder=
s. I bought a solid copper gasket and it solved the burn through problem, b=
ut it was impossible to seal the oil and water passages so I've long ha=
d massive oil leaks and oil contaminating the coolant. I've tried o-rin=
ging the oil and water passages which helped somewhat but didn't last. =
I recently experienced a burned piston and so am rebuilding the engine. (I =
drove it =C2=A0as long as I could before pulling the engine.) The machinist=
who milled the top of the block said that it resembled a ski jump. The blo=
ck was low on one corner and he had to take 0.012" off of it to make i=
t flat. That explains a lot. It also displayed very poor workmanship by the=
last machine shop having a very heavy and irregular tool pattern that mili=
tated against gasket sealing.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>In researching=
theoretical fixes for head gasket problems I took to the internet and read=
up on the new technology which is the MLS gasket. Multi Layer Steel gasket=
s consist of three layers of steel with their outer faces coated with a res=
ilient teflon layer that is the actual sealing medium. The three layers of =
steel can slide over each other to a certain extent allowing the head and b=
lock to expand differentially in relation to one another without stressing =
or damaging the gasket. The resilient layer seals and fills unevenness in t=
he mating surfaces. in order to work the mating surfaces have to be machine=
d very smooth (to a maximum roughness average (RA) of 60). Fortunately that=
is the standard for most engines these days anyway and is easily done. I&#=
39;m in the middle of the rebuild now and I've purchased an MLS gasket =
from Denis Welch Motorsport. They claim it solves the gasket leakage proble=
ms that are so common on the 4 cylinder and it can be reused twice in most =
cases. With a smooth flat engine block, a modern high tech gasket and a goo=
d rebuilt cylinder head (Needs a crack repair of course.) I'm hoping to=
see a lot of miles disappearing in my rear view mirrors again soon. And ma=
ybe even gain a little control my oil consumption.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Bill Lawrence</div><div><br></div><div>Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:52:47 -04=
00<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">warthod=
son@aol.com</a><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Subject: [Healeys] head gaskets<br><b=
r><font color=3D"black" size=3D"2" face=3D"arial">
<div><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style=3D"background-color:=
transparent">I thought I could get a good argument started on the subject o=
f head gaskets. AH Spares recently announced that they are offering multi-l=
ayered all steel head gaskets for Healeys. Suitable for both competition &a=
mp; street engines and aluminum heads to cast iron or aluminum blocks. Pres=
umably, also cast iron heads, but the ad did not state that.</font></div>
<div>I know they are not alone in offering improved head gaskets.</div>
<div>Being a cynic, I have to wonder if=C2=A0steel gaskets are really bette=
r that copper gaskets or are they just cheaper to manufacture?=C2=A0</div>
<div>Being an engineer, I have to wonder if a steel gasket is really a good=
choice for an aluminum head, especially in the sealing ring area around th=
e cylinders?</div>
<div>Gary Hodson</div>
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