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Re: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?

To: Doug Barker <douglas.barker@videotron.ca>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?
From: Graham Wilkie <glwilkie1@bigpond.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 03:47:22 +0000
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Hi Doug=2C
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I received several responses=3B the conventional wisdom was to remove the d=
ifferential and have a specialist carry out the work. That is on my to-do l=
ist.
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Until I get to that item on my list=2C here is what I have done. I drained =
the Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil=2C and replaced it with Penrite 140 Gea=
r Oil - Premium Mineral. This product claims "for quieting noisy differenti=
als=2C where the noise is due to wear=2C thus prolonging the life of the un=
it".=20
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After about 60 miles of driving=2C the whine was certainly still evident. A=
 bit quieter=2C but not significantly so. Following suggestions from others=
=2C I then added Nulon G70 to the Penrite 140 Gear Oil in the differential.
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I have covered some 1=2C123 miles since then.=20
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Conclusion: The pitch level of the diff whine is lower=2C more like a hummi=
ng=3B it is now easier to live with at and above 60mph. The most improvemen=
t occurred after adding the Nulon G70. I will continue to run this combinat=
ion in the differential for now. Knowing the result=2C I would do it again.=
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As has been pointed out by others=2C the real fix is to have the differenti=
al adjusted or repaired by a differential specialist. Hope that answers you=
r question. Regards=2C Graham Wilkie.Moruya=2C Australia.=20
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> From: douglas.barker@videotron.ca
> To: glwilkie1@bigpond.com=3B healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?
> Date: Wed=2C 23 Dec 2015 14:02:17 -0500
>=20
> This goes way back but did anybody respond and if so what was the
> conclusion?
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: healeys-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.n=
et]
> On Behalf Of Graham Wilkie
> Sent: Thursday=2C April 03=2C 2014 10:43 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?
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> Hello All=2C
>=20
> The differential on my 1966 BJ8 starts to whine once I have driven for
> several miles=2C and everything has warmed up to normal operating tempera=
ture.
> It only occurs during accelerator pedal movement down (under load). The
> whining diminishes during coasting or deceleration.
>=20
> The differential is filled with Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil. (Recentl=
y
> changed).
>=20
> I am considering replacing my differential gear oil with Penrite SAE 140
> mineral gear oil. (Note no 'W' prefix=3B it is straight SAE 140). This pr=
oduct
> claims it will reduce differential noise in older vehicles. I wonder if i=
t
> is suitable for our Healeys?
>=20
> I seem to recall reading on the List that our rear wheel bearings are spl=
ash
> lubricated by differential oil=2C but cannot find any reference to that i=
n my
> workshop manual. Is that correct? I'm concerned that if that is the case=
=2C
> will the SAE 140 be too viscous to splash lubricate the rear wheel bearin=
gs
> effectively?
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> Would I be better of using a gear oil additive like Nulon G70 instead?
>=20
> Any shared thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>=20
> Thank you.
>=20
> Regards=2C Graham Wilkie.
> BJ8 Moruya NSW Australia.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Doug=2C<br>&nbsp=3B<br>I received several responses=3B =
the conventional wisdom was to remove the differential&nbsp=3Band have a sp=
ecialist carry out the work. That is on&nbsp=3Bmy to-do list.<br>&nbsp=3B<b=
r>Until I get to that item on my list=2C here is what I have done. I draine=
d the Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil=2C and replaced it with Penrite 140 G=
ear Oil - Premium Mineral. This product claims&nbsp=3B"for quieting noisy d=
ifferentials=2C where the&nbsp=3Bnoise is due to wear=2C thus prolonging th=
e life of the unit". <br>&nbsp=3B<br>After about 60 miles of driving=2C&nbs=
p=3Bthe whine was certainly still evident.&nbsp=3BA bit quieter=2C but not&=
nbsp=3Bsignificantly so.&nbsp=3BFollowing suggestions from others=2C I then=
 added Nulon G70 to the Penrite 140 Gear Oil in the differential.<br>&nbsp=
=3B<br>I have covered some 1=2C123 miles since then.&nbsp=3B<br>&nbsp=3B<br=
><strong>Conclusion:</strong> The&nbsp=3Bpitch level of the diff whine is l=
ower=2C more like a humming=3B it is now&nbsp=3Beasier to live with&nbsp=3B=
at and above 60mph.&nbsp=3BThe&nbsp=3Bmost improvement occurred&nbsp=3Bafte=
r adding the Nulon G70. I will continue to run this combination in the diff=
erential&nbsp=3Bfor now.&nbsp=3BKnowing the result=2C I would do it again.&=
nbsp=3B<br>&nbsp=3B<br>As has been pointed out by others=2C the real fix is=
 to have the differential adjusted&nbsp=3Bor repaired by a differential spe=
cialist.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp=3B</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hope that ans=
wers your question.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp=3B</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Re=
gards=2C Graham Wilkie.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Moruya=2C Australia.&nbsp=3B<=
br>&nbsp=3B<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=3B From: douglas.barker@videotron=
.ca<br>&gt=3B To: glwilkie1@bigpond.com=3B healeys@autox.team.net<br>&gt=3B=
 Subject: RE: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?<br>&gt=
=3B Date: Wed=2C 23 Dec 2015 14:02:17 -0500<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B This goes =
way back but did anybody respond and if so what was the<br>&gt=3B conclusio=
n?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B -----Original Message-----<br>&gt=3B From: healeys-=
bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]<br>&gt=3B On=
 Behalf Of Graham Wilkie<br>&gt=3B Sent: Thursday=2C April 03=2C 2014 10:43=
 PM<br>&gt=3B To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>&gt=3B Subject: [Healeys] SAE 1=
40 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Hello All=2C<b=
r>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B The differential on my 1966 BJ8 starts to whine once I =
have driven for<br>&gt=3B several miles=2C and everything has warmed up to =
normal operating temperature.<br>&gt=3B It only occurs during accelerator p=
edal movement down (under load). The<br>&gt=3B whining diminishes during co=
asting or deceleration.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B The differential is filled wit=
h Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil. (Recently<br>&gt=3B changed).<br>&gt=3B =
<br>&gt=3B I am considering replacing my differential gear oil with Penrite=
 SAE 140<br>&gt=3B mineral gear oil. (Note no 'W' prefix=3B it is straight =
SAE 140). This product<br>&gt=3B claims it will reduce differential noise i=
n older vehicles. I wonder if it<br>&gt=3B is suitable for our Healeys?<br>=
&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I seem to recall reading on the List that our rear wheel =
bearings are splash<br>&gt=3B lubricated by differential oil=2C but cannot =
find any reference to that in my<br>&gt=3B workshop manual. Is that correct=
? I'm concerned that if that is the case=2C<br>&gt=3B will the SAE 140 be t=
oo viscous to splash lubricate the rear wheel bearings<br>&gt=3B effectivel=
y?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Would I be better of using a gear oil additive like=
 Nulon G70 instead?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Any shared thoughts or suggestions=
 would be greatly appreciated.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Thank you.<br>&gt=3B <b=
r>&gt=3B Regards=2C Graham Wilkie.<br>&gt=3B BJ8 Moruya NSW Australia.<br>&=
gt=3B _______________________________________________<br>&gt=3B Support Tea=
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