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Subject: Re: [Healeys] SAE 140 Use In Differential To Reduce Noise?
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 20:54:26 -0800
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Thanks for the detailed feedback Graham.   FWIW, there's been a 
discussion on this topic on the Forum.  There's at least some agreement 
that the 3.45 diffs may be a bit noisier than the 3.91s, even when set 
up by a qualified shop (it seems to be hit-or-miss). Noisy diffs have 
been a problem for many years; when my dad was a service rep at Ford 
they got lots of complaints about noisy diffs in early Mustangs.  My 
2008 Mustang has a noisy diff--how's that for respecting heritage?

I still have the 3.91 that came out of my BJ8 at about 120K miles. The 
wear pattern was barely discernible but flawless.  It made no noise that 
I ever noticed.  I suspect the only advantage to a heavier fluid is that 
it muffles the noise a bit more.

Merry Christmas to all.

Bob


On 12/23/2015 7:47 PM, Graham Wilkie wrote:
> Hi Doug,
>
> I received several responses; the conventional wisdom was to remove 
> the differential and have a specialist carry out the work. That is 
> on my to-do list.
>
> Until I get to that item on my list, here is what I have done. I 
> drained the Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil, and replaced it with 
> Penrite 140 Gear Oil - Premium Mineral. This product claims "for 
> quieting noisy differentials, where the noise is due to wear, thus 
> prolonging the life of the unit".
>
> After about 60 miles of driving, the whine was certainly still 
> evident. A bit quieter, but not significantly so. Following 
> suggestions from others, I then added Nulon G70 to the Penrite 140 
> Gear Oil in the differential.
>
> I have covered some 1,123 miles since then.
>
> *Conclusion:* The pitch level of the diff whine is lower, more like a 
> humming; it is now easier to live with at and above 60mph. The most 
> improvement occurred after adding the Nulon G70. I will continue to 
> run this combination in the differential for now. Knowing the result, 
> I would do it again.
>
> As has been pointed out by others, the real fix is to have the 
> differential adjusted or repaired by a differential specialist.
> Hope that answers your question.
> Regards, Graham Wilkie.
> Moruya, Australia.
>
>


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    Thanks for the detailed feedback Graham.   FWIW, there's been a
    discussion on this topic on the Forum.  There's at least some
    agreement that the 3.45 diffs may be a bit noisier than the 3.91s,
    even when set up by a qualified shop (it seems to be hit-or-miss). 
    Noisy diffs have been a problem for many years; when my dad was a
    service rep at Ford they got lots of complaints about noisy diffs in
    early Mustangs.  My 2008 Mustang has a noisy diff--how's that for
    respecting heritage?<br>
    <br>
    I still have the 3.91 that came out of my BJ8 at about 120K miles. 
    The wear pattern was barely discernible but flawless.  It made no
    noise that I ever noticed.  I suspect the only advantage to a
    heavier fluid is that it muffles the noise a bit more. <br>
    <br>
    Merry Christmas to all.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/23/2015 7:47 PM, Graham Wilkie
      wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">Hi Doug,<br>
             <br>
            I received several responses; the conventional wisdom was to
            remove the differential and have a specialist carry out the
            work. That is on my to-do list.<br>
             <br>
            Until I get to that item on my list, here is what I have
            done. I drained the Penrite 80W 90 mineral gear oil, and
            replaced it with Penrite 140 Gear Oil - Premium Mineral.
            This product claims "for quieting noisy differentials, where
            the noise is due to wear, thus prolonging the life of the
            unit". <br>
             <br>
            After about 60 miles of driving, the whine was certainly
            still evident. A bit quieter, but not significantly
            so. Following suggestions from others, I then added Nulon
            G70 to the Penrite 140 Gear Oil in the differential.<br>
             <br>
            I have covered some 1,123 miles since then. <br>
             <br>
            <strong>Conclusion:</strong> The pitch level of the diff
            whine is lower, more like a humming; it is now easier to
            live with at and above 60mph. The most improvement
            occurred after adding the Nulon G70. I will continue to run
            this combination in the differential for now. Knowing the
            result, I would do it again. <br>
             <br>
            As has been pointed out by others, the real fix is to have
            the differential adjusted or repaired by a differential
            specialist.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Hope that answers your question.</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Regards, Graham Wilkie.</div>
          <div dir="ltr">Moruya, Australia. <br>
             <br>
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