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To: michael.oritt@gmail.com, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering question
From: warthodson@aol.com
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:02:18 -0500
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You might try a small amount of additional toe-in. How confident are you th=
at the shimming of the steering column end play is "spot on"?  This, as you=
 probably know, is a fiddly adjustment & difficult to check, especially wit=
h the column in the car.=20
Gary Hodson
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2015 1:31 pm
Subject: [Healeys] Steering question



I have a December, 1954 100. =20


My wife and I went out for an extended ride yesterday. She drove first and =
though she does not have much experience with the car she is a quick study =
and good thinker. After she had driven for perhaps 20 miles she commented t=
hat the steering seemed go be "wandering" and required constant small adjus=
tments to keep the car going straight. She felt that the condition did not =
start until after we had been driving for a while. I did not say anything a=
nd thought to myself that she simply was not used to the car.=20


After about 50 miles we switched and--whether or not it was because of her =
comment--I noticed that the car did in fact want to wander and I had to sta=
y on top of keeping the car from veering ever so slightly from left or righ=
t of center. The situation remained the same for the balance of the trip--a=
bout 150 or so miles in all till we came home.

Whether or not this is relevant--once the wheel is turned to set up for a t=
urn everything seems fine and the car holds a steady track through the turn=
. It was only when the wheels were straight ahead that the issue presented.

I decided to address this today and with the car in the garage I find that =
there is virtually no play whatsoever in the steering--perhaps 1/2" or less=
--whether the front wheels are on or off the ground.=20


=E2=80=8BThe "adjustment" procedure described in the manual for "later" 100=
's simply tells me to loosen the lock nut, remove the cover plate and tight=
en down the adjusting screw to remove play.  I am not finding a lot of play=
--again 1/2" or less-whether the car is on the ground or in the air--except=
 when we are rolling.


I have, btw, checked for loose front wheel bearings by trying to wiggle the=
 front wheels both from side to side and back and forth and everything feel=
s just right.  Also I have observed the steering linkage from underneath an=
d when I push the wheels from lock to lock I see no looseness, etc. in the =
end ball joints or the steering tie rods.



=E2=80=8BSuggestions will be appreciated....


Best--Michael Oritt=E2=80=8B


=E2=80=8B


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<div>You might try a small amount of additional toe-in. How confident are y=
ou that the shimming of the steering column end play is "spot on"? &nbsp;Th=
is, as you probably know, is a fiddly adjustment &amp; difficult to check, =
especially with the column in the car.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Gary Hodson</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Michael Oritt &lt;michael.oritt@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Austin Healey &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Dec 28, 2015 1:31 pm<br>
Subject: [Healeys] Steering question<br>
<br>


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<div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#3333ff">I have a December, 195=
4 100. &nbsp;</font></div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; back=
ground-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; back=
ground-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">My wife and I went out for an extended r=
ide yesterday. She drove first and though she does not have much experience=
 with the car she is a quick study and good thinker. After she had driven f=
or perhaps 20 miles she commented that the steering seemed go be "wandering=
" and required constant small adjustments to keep the car going straight. S=
he felt that the condition did not start until after we had been driving fo=
r a while.</span><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,G=
eneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">&=
nbsp;</span></font><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-family: Verda=
na,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-colo=
r: rgb(250, 250, 250);">I did not say anything and thought to myself that s=
he simply was not used to the car.&nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-fam=
ily: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; backg=
round-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-fam=
ily: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; backg=
round-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">After about 50 miles we switched and--whe=
ther or not it was because of her comment--I noticed that the car did in fa=
ct want to wander and I had to stay on top of keeping the car from veering =
ever so slightly from left or right of center. The situation remained the s=
ame for the balance of the trip--about 150 or so miles in all till we came =
home.</span></div>
<font color=3D"#0000ff"><br style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Cali=
bri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250=
);"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-se=
rif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">Whether or not=
 this is relevant--once the wheel is turned to set up for a turn everything=
 seems fine and the car holds a steady track through the turn. It was only =
when the wheels were straight ahead that the issue presented.</span><br sty=
le=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-siz=
e: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><br style=3D"font-family: V=
erdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-=
color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Tahom=
a,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 25=
0, 250);">I decided to address this today and with the car in the garage I =
find that there is virtually no play whatsoever in the steering--perhaps 1/=
2" or less--whether the front wheels are on or off the ground.&nbsp;</span>=
</font>
<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 2=
50, 250);"><br>
</span></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 2=
50, 250);">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255); display: inl=
ine;">=E2=80=8BThe "adjustment" procedure described in the manual for "late=
r" 100's simply tells me to loosen the lock nut, remove the cover plate and=
 tighten down the adjusting screw to remove play.&nbsp; I am not finding a =
lot of play--again 1/2" or less-whether the car is on the ground or in the =
air--except when we are rolling.</div>
</span></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 2=
50, 250);">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255); display: inl=
ine;"><br>
</div>
</span></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 2=
50, 250);">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255); display: inl=
ine;">I have, btw, checked for loose front wheel bearings by trying to wigg=
le the front wheels both from side to side and back and forth and everythin=
g feels just right.&nbsp; Also I have observed the steering linkage from un=
derneath and when I push the wheels from lock to lock I see no looseness, e=
tc. in the end ball joints or the steering tie rods.</div>
</span></font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family: Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(250, 2=
50, 250);">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255); display: inl=
ine;"><br>
</div>
</span></font></div>

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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">=E2=80=8BSu=
ggestions will be appreciated....</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br>
</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Best--Micha=
el Oritt=E2=80=8B</div>
<br>
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