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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering question
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:30:44 -0800
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I switched to Penright oil to stop it from leaking and it really improved
the steering response too. You need to pump it as it is very thick and will
not pour.

Mr. Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
On Dec 28, 2015 12:19 PM, "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:

> All--
>
> Thanks for the good suggestions.  After reading Joseph's I did a quick
> check on the shocks and found I could tighten the upper shock mounts abou=
t
> one flat (I have Putske's Bilstein shocks mounted) but to be on the safe
> side I will give the entire front end a good nut and bolt before ruling
> anything out.
>
> I am running about 27 psi on the Michelin XAS's and I will also check toe
> as per Dave Porter's suggestion.
>
> In the meantime it has been quite a while since I have checked the fluid
> level in the steering box and I ran out of time to check it today as  I
> must move the cold air hose in order to get to it.  What is the preferred
> lubricant for a box that has not shown any signs of leakage?
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, David Porter <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Wander is generally an issue with the toe-in/out. Check the tie toe ends
>> for excessive wear..
>> happy new year from Snippy..
>>
>>
>> On 12/28/2015 12:23 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
>>
>> I have a December, 1954 100.
>>
>> My wife and I went out for an extended ride yesterday. She drove first
>> and though she does not have much experience with the car she is a quick
>> study and good thinker. After she had driven for perhaps 20 miles she
>> commented that the steering seemed go be "wandering" and required consta=
nt
>> small adjustments to keep the car going straight. She felt that the
>> condition did not start until after we had been driving for a while. I
>> did not say anything and thought to myself that she simply was not used =
to
>> the car.
>>
>> After about 50 miles we switched and--whether or not it was because of
>> her comment--I noticed that the car did in fact want to wander and I had=
 to
>> stay on top of keeping the car from veering ever so slightly from left o=
r
>> right of center. The situation remained the same for the balance of the
>> trip--about 150 or so miles in all till we came home.
>>
>> Whether or not this is relevant--once the wheel is turned to set up for =
a
>> turn everything seems fine and the car holds a steady track through the
>> turn. It was only when the wheels were straight ahead that the issue
>> presented.
>>
>> I decided to address this today and with the car in the garage I find
>> that there is virtually no play whatsoever in the steering--perhaps 1/2"=
 or
>> less--whether the front wheels are on or off the ground.
>>
>> =E2=80=8BThe "adjustment" procedure described in the manual for "later" =
100's
>> simply tells me to loosen the lock nut, remove the cover plate and tight=
en
>> down the adjusting screw to remove play.  I am not finding a lot of
>> play--again 1/2" or less-whether the car is on the ground or in the
>> air--except when we are rolling.
>>
>> I have, btw, checked for loose front wheel bearings by trying to wiggle
>> the front wheels both from side to side and back and forth and everythin=
g
>> feels just right.  Also I have observed the steering linkage from
>> underneath and when I push the wheels from lock to lock I see no loosene=
ss,
>> etc. in the end ball joints or the steering tie rods.
>>
>> =E2=80=8B Suggestions will be appreciated....
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt=E2=80=8B
>>
>> =E2=80=8B
>>
>>
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7
>> 505-352-1378 Go HERE: my world www.porterbikes.com/
>>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I switched to Penright oil to stop it from leaking and it re=
ally improved the steering response too. You need to pump it as it is very =
thick and will not pour.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 28, 2015 12:19 PM, &quot;Michael Oritt&qu=
ot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">All--</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thanks for the good suggestions.=
=C2=A0 After reading Joseph&#39;s I did a quick check on the shocks and fou=
nd I could tighten the upper shock mounts about one flat (I have Putske&#39=
;s Bilstein shocks mounted) but to be on the safe side I will give the enti=
re front end a good nut and bolt before ruling anything out.</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"color:#3333ff">I am running about 27 psi on the Michelin X=
AS&#39;s and I will also check toe as per Dave Porter&#39;s suggestion.</di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In the meantime it has been quit=
e a while since I have checked the fluid level in the steering box and I ra=
n out of time to check it today as =C2=A0I must move the cold air hose in o=
rder to get to it.=C2=A0 What is the preferred lubricant for a box that has=
 not shown any signs of leakage?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D=
"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff">Best--Michael Oritt =C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, David Porter <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frogeye@porterscustom.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">frogeye@porterscustom.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    Wander is generally an issue with the toe-in/out. Check the tie toe
    ends for excessive wear..<br>
    happy new year from Snippy..<div><div><br>
    <br>
    <div>On 12/28/2015 12:23 PM, Michael Oritt
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    </div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#3333ff">I have a
            December, 1954 100. =C2=A0</font></div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D=
"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;=
background-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br>
            </span></font></div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D=
"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;=
background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">My
              wife and I went out for an extended ride yesterday. She
              drove first and though she does not have much experience
              with the car she is a quick study and good thinker. After
              she had driven for perhaps 20 miles she commented that the
              steering seemed go be &quot;wandering&quot; and required cons=
tant
              small adjustments to keep the car going straight. She felt
              that the condition did not start until after we had been
              driving for a while.</span><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana=
,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb=
(250,250,250)">=C2=A0</span></font><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial=
,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,255);backgro=
und-color:rgb(250,250,250)">I
            did not say anything and thought to myself that she simply
            was not used to the car.=C2=A0</span></div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,255);backg=
round-color:rgb(250,250,250)"><br>
          </span></div>
        <div class=3D"gmail_default"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,255);backg=
round-color:rgb(250,250,250)">After
            about 50 miles we switched and--whether or not it was
            because of her comment--I noticed that the car did in fact
            want to wander and I had to stay on top of keeping the car
            from veering ever so slightly from left or right of center.
            The situation remained the same for the balance of the
            trip--about 150 or so miles in all till we came home.</span></d=
iv>
        <font color=3D"#0000ff"><br style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Taho=
ma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,25=
0)">
          <span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">Whether
            or not this is relevant--once the wheel is turned to set up
            for a turn everything seems fine and the car holds a steady
            track through the turn. It was only when the wheels were
            straight ahead that the issue presented.</span><br style=3D"fon=
t-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;back=
ground-color:rgb(250,250,250)">
          <br style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans=
-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">
          <span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Arial,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">I
            decided to address this today and with the car in the garage
            I find that there is virtually no play whatsoever in the
            steering--perhaps 1/2&quot; or less--whether the front wheels a=
re
            on or off the ground.=C2=A0</span></font>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)"><br>
            </span></font></div>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)">
              <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);di=
splay:inline">=E2=80=8BThe
                &quot;adjustment&quot; procedure described in the manual fo=
r
                &quot;later&quot; 100&#39;s simply tells me to loosen the l=
ock nut,
                remove the cover plate and tighten down the adjusting
                screw to remove play.=C2=A0 I am not finding a lot of
                play--again 1/2&quot; or less-whether the car is on the
                ground or in the air--except when we are rolling.</div>
            </span></font></div>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)">
              <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);di=
splay:inline"><br>
              </div>
            </span></font></div>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)">
              <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);di=
splay:inline">I have, btw,
                checked for loose front wheel bearings by trying to
                wiggle the front wheels both from side to side and back
                and forth and everything feels just right.=C2=A0 Also I hav=
e
                observed the steering linkage from underneath and when I
                push the wheels from lock to lock I see no looseness,
                etc. in the end ball joints or the steering tie rods.</div>
            </span></font></div>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)">
              <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);di=
splay:inline"><br>
              </div>
            </span></font></div>
        <div>
          <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">=E2=
=80=8B
            Suggestions will be appreciated....</div>
          <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br>
          </div>
          <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best-=
-Michael
            Oritt=E2=80=8B</div>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div><font color=3D"#0000ff"><span style=3D"font-family:Verdana,Ari=
al,Tahoma,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13px;background-color:rgb(250=
,250,250)">
              <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255);di=
splay:inline">=E2=80=8B</div>
              <br>
            </span></font></div>
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