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To: "'Keith Taylor'" <ktee20@gmail.com>, "'Wilko2'" <e-wilkins@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] +Compression ratio
From: "John Rowe" <john@jtkarowe.com.au>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:04:14 +1000
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Keith=20

I did that in the 60s when I had my BN1- used Dodge pistons with the =
skirt cut off. Worked well with a lot shaved off the head so had water =
squirting out everywhere. Used to run 1 gallon of methyl-benzine with 4 =
gallons of super. When I rebuilt my present BN1 I got some flat tops =
from JP (or JE) pistons in Adelaide. I reckon it would be 10:1 or so, =
I=E2=80=99ve never really worked it out. With a Wade cam,1 =C2=BE =
SU=E2=80=99s (HD6s) & extractors it goes like the clappers. Torque is =
ridiculous and runs well on 95 ULP.=20

Both sets of pistons came to the top of the block. IIRC, the Dodge =
pistons had smaller gudgeon pins so they offset drilled the pistons =
because the standard ones would be below the top

Cheers

John Rowe

Qld

BN1 BT7

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Keith =
Taylor
Sent: Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:04 PM
To: Wilko2
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] +Compression ratio

=20

Thanks Bob & Rick  I believe the pistons were from a Dodge "Q" & are not =
dished, they are level with the top of the block

They were fitted long before I bought the car & after rebuild I had to =
fit a high torque starter to get it to turnover=20

>From your assessments & my assumptions I thought compression would be =
higher than 9.5 possibly 10+

The car certainly has plenty of torque  It also had an ugly/bizarre =
plumbing setup to the head similar to a 100S for cooling=20

=20

Curiosity satisfied=20

=20

Keith

=20

On 16 January 2016 at 12:57, Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net> wrote:

The standard 7.5/1 piston has a dish top with a volume of 29 cc.

The LeMans 8.5/1 piston also has a dish top but the dish is not as deep =
being only 14cc volume. A true flat top if it has the same compression =
height (distance from the top of the pin hole to top of piston) would =
give a ratio of 10.5/1. There could be design variations that are flat =
top but have a lower compression height which would give a lower ratio.

Without knowing where the top of your piston is in relation to the top =
of the cylinder or dimension from pin, there's not way of knowing =
without measuring your chambers.

Rick Wilkins


On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Keith Taylor wrote:

> What would be  the compression ratio of a BN2 fitted with flat top =
pistons.
>
> Keith Taylor
> BN1
> BN2
>
> Southern Highlands OZ

>=20


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D'>I did that in the 60s when I had my BN1- used Dodge pistons with the =
skirt cut off. Worked well with a lot shaved off the head so had water =
squirting out everywhere. Used to run 1 gallon of methyl-benzine with 4 =
gallons of super. When I rebuilt my present BN1 I got some flat tops =
from JP (or JE) pistons in Adelaide. I reckon it would be 10:1 or so, =
I=E2=80=99ve never really worked it out. With a Wade cam,1 =C2=BE =
SU=E2=80=99s (HD6s) &amp; extractors it goes like the clappers. Torque =
is ridiculous and runs well on 95 ULP. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Both sets of pistons came to the top of the block. IIRC, the Dodge =
pistons had smaller gudgeon pins so they offset drilled the pistons =
because the standard ones would be below the top<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Keith =
Taylor<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 16 January 2016 2:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Wilko2<br><b>Cc:</b> healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
+Compression ratio<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks Bob &amp; Rick&nbsp; I believe the pistons were =
from a Dodge &quot;Q&quot; &amp; are not dished, they are level with the =
top of the block<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>They were =
fitted long before I bought the car &amp; after rebuild I had to fit a =
high torque starter to get it to turnover <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>From your assessments &amp; my assumptions I thought =
compression would be higher than 9.5 possibly =
10+<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The car certainly has =
plenty of torque&nbsp;&nbsp;It also had an ugly/bizarre plumbing setup =
to the head similar to a 100S for =
cooling&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Curiosity satisfied <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Keith<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 16 =
January 2016 at 12:57, Wilko2 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:e-wilkins@cox.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">e-wilkins@cox.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The standard 7.5/1 piston has a dish top with a volume =
of 29 cc.<br><br>The LeMans 8.5/1 piston also has a dish top but the =
dish is not as deep being only 14cc volume. A true flat top if it has =
the same compression height (distance from the top of the pin hole to =
top of piston) would give a ratio of 10.5/1. There could be design =
variations that are flat top but have a lower compression height which =
would give a lower ratio.<br><br>Without knowing where the top of your =
piston is in relation to the top of the cylinder or dimension from pin, =
there's not way of knowing without measuring your chambers.<br><br>Rick =
Wilkins<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>On Jan 15, =
2016, at 5:10 PM, Keith Taylor wrote:<br><br>&gt; What would be&nbsp; =
the compression ratio of a BN2 fitted with flat top =
pistons.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Keith Taylor<br>&gt; BN1<br>&gt; =
BN2<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Southern Highlands OZ<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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