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Subject: Re: [Healeys] more Cuban Chrome
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:57:39 -0400
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I am confused. Are you in favor of continuing the policy of the previous de=
cades? That sure has worked out well.
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-----Original Message-----
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <YNOTINK@msn.com>
To: Hap Polk <happolk@cox.net>; ATIGHTPROD <ATIGHTPROD@aol.com>; healeys <h=
ealeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 10:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] more Cuban Chrome



Well Hap, we'll probably get in trouble for it, but I think bringing out th=
e political side of this issue is something that should be done. It is a ba=
sic requirement for a moral human being to recognize and oppose such enormi=
ties. The maximum (not minimum) mandatory wage of the average Cuban citizen=
 is about $25 per month. You're not shopping with Denis Welch for that wage=
. Allowing yourself to be used as a propaganda tool by such a murderous and=
 oppressive regime is so despicable as to be nearly sub-human. The only ben=
efit to come from such naive missions is the further enrichment of the Cast=
ro brothers and the continued oppression of their people. I would never par=
ticipate in such a thing and have no respect for anyone who would.=20


I probably just got banned, oh well...



From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hap Polk <happo=
lk@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:27 PM
To: ATIGHTPROD@aol.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] more Cuban Chrome
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Avoiding being political, but just stating facts: The US embargo of Cuba ha=
s very little to do with the availability of consumer and car restoration g=
oods in Cuba. The reason Cubans do not have access to Healey parts is becau=
se 1) Cuba generates very little foreign exchange, and 2) the Cuban governm=
ent prevents its citizens from both generating and using foreign exchange. =
Cuban citizens don=E2=80=99t earn enough to buy and are prohibited from buy=
ing foreign goods direct. The UK, Canada, Australia, and Cuban nationals li=
ving in Mexico, Latin American countries and most others have the ability t=
o sell foreign made items to Cubans. But the Cubans don=E2=80=99t have enou=
gh money to buy and almost no foreign exchange capability and no permission=
 to import. This is the result of the Cuban government policies, not the US=
=E2=80=99s mostly ineffectual embargo, we being practically the only countr=
y partially enforcing it.
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The Cuban Chrome program blames the US embargo for their difficulties. It a=
lso failed to reveal that the Cuban automobile enthusiasts depicted are amo=
ng the most economically successful Cubans outside the political class. I a=
ssume these distortions and half-truths were necessary to get Cuban governm=
ent permission to film. Most Cubans couldn=E2=80=99t even dream of restorin=
g a car, such as a Healey for fun. The parts prices paid for the green Pont=
iac each exceeded the average Cuban=E2=80=99s monthly gross wages.=20
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of ATIGHTPRO=
D@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:25 PM
To: goldengt@cal.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] more Cuban Chrome

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Wow! How cool is that? Now that's an adventure! Looking forward to the arti=
cle.

Steven Kingsbury

BN1 #598

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In a message dated 3/15/2016 7:37:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,goldengt@ca=
l.net writes:


I went to Cuba last week and met with the president of the Cuban Sports Car=
 Club. He has a nice early BN4. We went to see the BN7 (56 Chevy engine) th=
at was on the TV show also. The owner of that car was not available to talk=
 to, though. Too bad his as his English was pretty good on the TV show. Boy=
 what a challenge those guys have. I wish I could send him all my used stuf=
f. They could use it. I need to read up on the embargo some more. Maybe the=
re is some way we can help. The BN4 needs a front shock body. The ear is br=
oken off. I am working on an article for my local club. I will share it wit=
h the list when I am through.

Ken Freese

65 BJ8



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the previous decades? That sure has worked out well.</font></div>



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From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;YNOTINK@msn.com&gt;<br>

To: Hap Polk &lt;happolk@cox.net&gt;; ATIGHTPROD &lt;ATIGHTPROD@aol.com&gt;=
; healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>

Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 10:05 pm<br>

Subject: Re: [Healeys] more Cuban Chrome<br>

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<div>Well Hap, we'll probably get in trouble for it, but I&nbsp;think bring=
ing out the political side of this issue is something that&nbsp;should be d=
one. It is a basic requirement for&nbsp;a moral human being to recognize&nb=
sp;and oppose&nbsp;such enormities.&nbsp;The maximum (not minimum)
 mandatory&nbsp;wage of the average Cuban citizen is about $25 per month. Y=
ou're not shopping with Denis Welch for that wage. Allowing yourself to be =
used as a propaganda tool by such a murderous and&nbsp;oppressive regime is=
 so&nbsp;despicable as to be nearly sub-human.
 The only benefit to come from such naive missions is the further enrichmen=
t of the Castro brothers and the continued oppression of their people. I wo=
uld never participate in such a thing&nbsp;and have no respect for anyone w=
ho would.&nbsp;</div>




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<div>I probably just got banned, oh well...</div>


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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Calib=
ri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounce=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Hap Polk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:happol=
k@cox.net" target=3D"_blank">happolk@cox.net</a>&gt;<br>


<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:27 PM<br>


<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ATIGHTPROD@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">ATIGHTPR=
OD@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>


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ont-size: 12pt;'>
<span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;'>Avoidin=
g being political, but just stating facts: The US embargo of Cuba has very =
little to do with the availability of consumer and car restoration goods in=
 Cuba. The reason Cubans do not have
 access to Healey parts is because 1) Cuba generates very little foreign ex=
change, and 2) the Cuban government prevents its citizens from both generat=
ing and using foreign exchange. Cuban citizens don=E2=80=99t earn enough to=
 buy and are prohibited from buying foreign
 goods direct. The UK, Canada, Australia, and Cuban nationals living in Mex=
ico, Latin American countries and most others have the ability to sell fore=
ign made items to Cubans. But the Cubans don=E2=80=99t have enough money to=
 buy and almost no foreign exchange capability
 and no permission to import. This is the result of the Cuban government po=
licies, not the US=E2=80=99s mostly ineffectual embargo, we being practical=
ly the only country partially enforcing it.</span></div>




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ont-size: 12pt;'>
<span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;'>&nbsp;<=
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ont-size: 12pt;'>
<span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;'>The Cub=
an Chrome program blames the US embargo for their difficulties. It also fai=
led to reveal that the Cuban automobile enthusiasts depicted are among the =
most economically successful Cubans
 outside the political class. I assume these distortions and half-truths we=
re necessary to get Cuban government permission to film. Most Cubans couldn=
=E2=80=99t even dream of restoring a car, such as a Healey for fun. The par=
ts prices paid for the green Pontiac each
 exceeded the average Cuban=E2=80=99s monthly gross wages. </span></div>




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<b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;'>From=
:</span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri",sans-serif; font-size: 11=
pt;'> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net?"; target=3D=
"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:ATIGHTPROD@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>ATIGHTPROD@aol.com</a><br>


<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:25 PM<br>


<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:goldengt@cal.net"; target=3D"_blank">goldengt@c=
al.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">hea=
leys@autox.team.net</a><br>


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<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt;'>Wow! How cool is that? Now that's an adventure! Looking forward to the=
 article.</span></div>


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<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif; font-size: 10=
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<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif; font-size: 10=
pt;'>In a message dated 3/15/2016 7:37:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
</span><a style=3D"color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline;" hre=
f=3D"mailto:goldengt@cal.net"; target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D'font-family:=
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t@cal.net" target=3D"_blank">goldengt@cal.net</a><span style=3D'color: blac=
k; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;'>
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<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;'>I went to Cu=
ba last week and met with the president of the Cuban Sports Car Club. He ha=
s a nice early BN4. We went to see the BN7 (56 Chevy engine) that was on th=
e TV show also. The owner of that car
 was not available to talk to, though. Too bad his as his English was prett=
y good on the TV show. Boy what a challenge those guys have. I wish I could=
 send him all my used stuff. They could use it. I need to read up on the em=
bargo some more. Maybe there is
 some way we can help. The BN4 needs a front shock body. The ear is broken =
off. I am working on an article for my local club. I will share it with the=
 list when I am through.</span></div>


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<span style=3D'color: black; font-family: "Arial",sans-serif;'>Ken Freese</=
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