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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Which Harness?
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2018 07:08:43 -0700
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If so, be sure to insulate and/or secure the ends if they're hot.  My 
BJ8 harness came with a brown lead for a cigar lighter, which I believe 
was an option (my car doesn't have one).  Shortly after installation, it 
somehow touched ground, even though it had one of the metal/rubber 
'barrel type' connectors on the end, and it let the smoke out of a 
section of that wire in the harness. Surprisingly, the harness has 
otherwise been fine for, oh, thirty years or so.

Bob


On 11/1/2018 2:49 PM, Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
>
> In replacement harnesses for restoration often extra wires are already 
> fitted for eg spot lights,fog lights, radio, overdrive, heater fan, 
> extra radiator fan etc. and their switches. Could this be the case 
> with this replacement harness?
>
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Op 1-11-2018 om 19:18 schreef Michael MacLean:
>> Here is a picture of the "offending" section of the harness.  Does 
>> look like a BN1 or BN2 harness to you?  Seems to be more wires than 
>> my BN2 wiring diagram calls for, or I could be misinterpreting the 
>> diagram.
>> Mike MacLean
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 1, 2018 10:43 AM, Michael Salter 
>> <michael.salter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>> Pretty sure that the big difference will be in the wiring for the 
>> overdrive relays that are just above the driver's knees.
>> In that area for a BN1 there will be a group of 4 wires that go to 
>> those relays.
>> 1 x Black
>> 1 x Green
>> 1 x Green with Black and Yellow
>> 1 x Green with Black and White.
>>
>> That group won't be there for the BN2 harness.
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:52 AM Michael MacLean 
>>
>>     I have a wiring harness that was given to me by a restorer friend
>>     just before he passed away.  He told me it was a BN2 harness.  It
>>     is cloth with PVC wires.  The pictures I have of most
>>     restorations that clearly show the main harness against the
>>     firewall are cloth and braid covered wires.  I can see the color
>>     codes of the braided wires that align with some of the PVC wires
>>     of my harness, but I seem to have a few extra wires coming out of
>>     the harness where there should not be any.  How can I tell the
>>     difference between a BN1 and a BN2 main harness that is cloth and
>>     PVC.  There is also four smaller harnesses of which I am sure one
>>     or more will connect to the main harness somewhere.  A little bit
>>     more to deal with here than my Bugeye that I installed in 2000.
>>     Mike MacLean
>>
>>
>>      
>>
>


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    <p>If so, be sure to insulate and/or secure the ends if they're
      hot.  My BJ8 harness came with a brown lead for a cigar lighter,
      which I believe was an option (my car doesn't have one).  Shortly
      after installation, it somehow touched ground, even though it had
      one of the metal/rubber 'barrel type' connectors on the end, and
      it let the smoke out of a section of that wire in the harness. 
      Surprisingly, the harness has otherwise been fine for, oh, thirty
      years or so.</p>
    <p>Bob<br>
    </p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/1/2018 2:49 PM, Kees Oudesluijs
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      <p>In replacement harnesses for restoration often extra wires are
        already fitted for eg spot lights,fog lights, radio, overdrive,
        heater fan, extra radiator fan etc. and their switches. Could
        this be the case with this replacement harness?</p>
      <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 1-11-2018 om 19:18 schreef Michael
        MacLean:<br>
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          <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541095173842_16406"><span
              id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541095173842_16407">Here is a
              picture of the "offending" section of the harness.  Does
              look like a BN1 or BN2 harness to you?  Seems to be more
              wires than my BN2 wiring diagram calls for, or I could be
              misinterpreting the diagram.  <br>
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          <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541095173842_16554"><span
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                <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday,
                    November 1, 2018 10:43 AM, Michael Salter <a
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                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
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                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:comic sans ms,
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                          the big difference will be in the wiring for
                          the overdrive relays that are just above the
                          driver's knees.</div>
                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:comic sans ms,
                          sans-serif;font-size:small;">In that area for
                          a BN1 there will be a group of 4 wires that go
                          to those relays.</div>
                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:comic sans ms,
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                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
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                          Black and Yellow</div>
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                          style="font-family:comic sans ms,
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                          Black and White.</div>
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                        <div class="yiv8727629162gmail_default"
                          style="font-family:comic sans ms,
                          sans-serif;font-size:small;">That group won't
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                          <div dir="ltr">On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 8:52 AM
                            Michael MacLean &lt;<a rel="nofollow"
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                                  I have a wiring harness that was given
                                  to me by a restorer friend just before
                                  he passed away.  He told me it was a
                                  BN2 harness.  It is cloth with PVC
                                  wires.  The pictures I have of most
                                  restorations that clearly show the
                                  main harness against the firewall are
                                  cloth and braid covered wires.  I can
                                  see the color codes of the braided
                                  wires that align with some of the PVC
                                  wires of my harness, but I seem to
                                  have a few extra wires coming out of
                                  the harness where there should not be
                                  any.  How can I tell the difference
                                  between a BN1 and a BN2 main harness
                                  that is cloth and PVC.  There is also
                                  four smaller harnesses of which I am
                                  sure one or more will connect to the
                                  main harness somewhere.  A little bit
                                  more to deal with here than my Bugeye
                                  that I installed in 2000.</div>
                                <div dir="ltr"
id="yiv8727629162m_-4554029399692054437yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1541049099329_10533">Mike
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