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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 20:09:41 +0000 (UTC)
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 Regarding "car dies suddenly", this happened to my BJ8 four times over the=
 course of 10 miles--dirty fuel filters proved to be the cause.rich antal
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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: Car dies suddenly (simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com)
=C2=A0 2. Re: Car dies suddenly (Elton Schulz)
=C2=A0 3. Re: Car dies suddenly (Bluehealey)
=C2=A0 4. Re: Car dies suddenly (skip saunders)
=C2=A0 5. Re: Gearbox Noise (Charles Schott)
=C2=A0 6. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 7. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Oritt)
=C2=A0 8. Re: Car dies suddenly (i erbs)
=C2=A0 9. Re: Car dies suddenly (Engl)
=C2=A0 10. Re: Car dies suddenly (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)
=C2=A0 11. sudden stop (=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D)
=C2=A0 12. Re: Gearbox Noise (Michael Salter)
=C2=A0 13. Re: Car dies suddenly (Jonathan Einhorn)
=C2=A0 14. Re: Car dies suddenly (Tom Felts)
=C2=A0 15. Re: Gearbox Noise (Chris Dimmock)
=C2=A0 16. Re: Car dies suddenly (simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com)
=C2=A0 17. Re: Gearbox Noise (Bruce Steele)
=C2=A0 18. Re: Car dies suddenly (Bob Spidell)
=C2=A0 19. Re: Gearbox Noise (Mark J Bradakis)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:13 -0000
From: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, "'Austin Healey'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..

Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do =
100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endles=
s tears.

Or is it a black/white wire?

Worth a look.

Simon

=20

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46
To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

=20

Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car=
 suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading u=
p to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after ab=
out 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my =
surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A b=
it perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was =
paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about=
 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off =
the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seeme=
d fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the c=
oil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harn=
ess/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.


After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it.=20


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car h=
as a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in =
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distri=
butor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interio=
r of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contac=
t, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the =
positive coil terminal.=20


I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place =
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch thro=
ugh a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sende=
r line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the =
engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conc=
lude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And =
though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it se=
em tight and intact.


So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without findin=
g something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start an=
y further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to hap=
pen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues what=
ever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any w=
ork related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt, BN1

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:07:10 -0400
From: Elton Schulz <eschulz@frontiernet.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Michael,
Could it be the battery cutoff switch in the trunk or the black/white=20
wire from that switch to the distributor?
Elton
On 3/19/2019 1:45 PM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles=20
> the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or=20
> missing leading up to it---the car simply died. I coasted to the side=20
> of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I=20
> pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately,=20
> revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive=20
> on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The=20
> car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it=20
> died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped=20
> the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed=20
> fine---all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from=20
> the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight=20
> and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.
>
>
> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car,=20
> turned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car=20
> started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for=20
> my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without any further=20
> event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to=20
> verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed=20
> SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver's seat=20
> which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump=20
> off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on=20
> either pump and when I selected the "off" position it slowly lost=20
> power as I expected it to---but in no way like it had suddenly twice=20
> died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a=20
> fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system=20
> or to the primary wires that run to it.
>
>
> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The=20
> car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which=20
> has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I=20
> removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at=20
> least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as=20
> was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory=20
> specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power=20
> source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC=20
> to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil=20
> terminal.
>
>
> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in=20
> place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition=20
> switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil=20
> pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out=20
> because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light=20
> immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch=20
> itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove=20
> the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.
>
>
> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without=20
> finding something that appears to be defective but I don't know where=20
> to start any further tests, etc. I also don't want to simply wait for=20
> the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150=20
> miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last=20
> week I have not performed any work related to the ignition system. All=20
> suggestions/questions welcome....
>
> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:36:30 +0000
From: Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Are you using a black rotor arm? I had a similar problem that was resolved =
by changing to a red rotor with no rivet.
Apparently the black colour of the plastic is created by using carbon - whi=
ch can be an HT conductor if a crack appears usually from the rivet.
Keep us all in the loop.
Bluehealey.com

Alan - from my iPad

> On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:45, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the c=
ar suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading=
 up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after =
about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To m=
y surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A=
 bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I wa=
s paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for abo=
ut 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut of=
f the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything see=
med fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the=
 coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the ha=
rness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.
>=20
>=20
> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned=
 on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right =
up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, abou=
t ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the proble=
m did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a f=
uel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch m=
ounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pump=
s as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway=
 speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? posit=
ion it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudd=
enly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing =
with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition syste=
m or to the primary wires that run to it.=20
>=20
>=20
> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car=
 has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been i=
n place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the dist=
ributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The inter=
ior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon cont=
act, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor i=
n the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idlin=
g I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at th=
e positive coil terminal.=20
>=20
>=20
> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in plac=
e of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch th=
rough a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sen=
der line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when th=
e engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I co=
nclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. An=
d though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it =
seem tight and intact.
>=20
>=20
> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without find=
ing something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start =
any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to h=
appen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues wh=
atever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any=
 work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:41:51 -0400
From: "skip saunders" <tfsbj7@gmail.com>
To: "'Michael Oritt'" <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, "'Austin Healey'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Many years ago, I had the exact same experience.=C2=A0 It turned out to be =
a faulty ignition key switch.=C2=A0 When jouncing around the weight of the =
key (and associated other keys) would seem to move the switch ever so sligh=
tly.=C2=A0 I did an autopsy on the switch?.turned out to be extremely robus=
t plastic/bakelite but very flimsy metal innards.=C2=A0 I replaced the swit=
ch with a GM switch (this was many many years ago?.before concourse was eve=
n a thought in my head) and drove the car for another 50-60k miles?.=20

=20

Best Wishes=20

-skip-

=20

=20

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael =
Oritt
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:46 PM
To: Austin Healey
Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

=20

Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car=
 suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading u=
p to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after ab=
out 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my =
surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A b=
it perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was =
paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about=
 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off =
the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seeme=
d fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the c=
oil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harn=
ess/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.


After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it.=20


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car h=
as a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in =
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distri=
butor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interio=
r of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contac=
t, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the =
positive coil terminal.=20


I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place =
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch thro=
ugh a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sende=
r line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the =
engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conc=
lude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And =
though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it se=
em tight and intact.


So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without findin=
g something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start an=
y further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to hap=
pen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues what=
ever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any w=
ork related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.

=20

Best--Michael Oritt, BN1

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:25:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett <thehartnetts@earthlink.net>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <189186061.2815522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology=
.net>

I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it tomorro=
w.=20

Regards,=20

Charlie=20

----- Original Message -----

From: "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts@earthlink.net>=20
To: "AH Mail List" <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:56:10 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise=20

How to get it back in! Been there. Done that.=20
(The Other) Len=20
Fairfield, CA, USA=20
1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031=20



----- Original Message -----=20
From: Charles Schott=20
To: Tom=20
Cc: Healey Mail List=20
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise=20



<blockquote>

I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overd=
rive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at=
 all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and =
now it's not working=20


<blockquote>
at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm plan=
ning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.=20
</blockquote>


Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What shou=
ld I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks.=20

Regards,=20

Charlie Schott=20

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:34:19 +1300
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
Message-ID:
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l.gmail.com>

Hi Michael,
100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it
might well be worth checking.
The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil.
Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly
dying.
Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a
significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver
which I at the time, mistakenly,=C2=A0 felt confirmed that the coil was act=
ually
okay ... it wasn't.
I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by
installing a replacement.
I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was
confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then
finding that the engine started immediately.
As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine
to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!
 I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil
can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.

M

I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..
>
> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? D=
o
> 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused
> endless tears.
>
> Or is it a black/white wire?
>
> Worth a look.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
> Oritt
> *Sent:* 19 March 2019 17:46
> *To:* Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
>
>
>
> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the
> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing
> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road a=
nd
> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start
> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idl=
ed
> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen
> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and r=
an
> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as
> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition
> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place =
as
> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coi=
l
> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seeme=
d
> fine.
>
>
> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned
> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right
> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,
> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the
> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was
> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a
> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch
> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the
> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected
> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way
> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated =
I
> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to
> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.
>
>
> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car
> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been =
in
> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the
> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The
> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carb=
on
> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast
> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engin=
e
> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of =
it
> and at the positive coil terminal.
>
>
> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in plac=
e
> of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch
> through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge
> sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times wh=
en
> the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which =
I
> conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem=
.
> And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from
> it seem tight and intact.
>
>
> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without
> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to
> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the
> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with =
no
> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not
> performed any work related to the ignition system. All
> suggestions/questions welcome?.
>
>
>
> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 22:07:21 -0400
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@mai=
l.gmail.com>

Hi Michael--

Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event
that happened last week.

As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced
the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts,
so scratch that as a cause.=C2=A0 As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actu=
ally
find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing
connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing
disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen.=C2=A0 I'l=
l
start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch
and see if I can find the offending bit, etc.=C2=A0 If no luck then I'll st=
art
on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) ,
has no condenser.

Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it
> might well be worth checking.
> The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil=
.
> Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly
> dying.
> Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a
> significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriv=
er
> which I at the time, mistakenly,=C2=A0 felt confirmed that the coil was a=
ctually
> okay ... it wasn't.
> I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by
> installing a replacement.
> I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which wa=
s
> confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then
> finding that the engine started immediately.
> As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine
> to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!
>=C2=A0 I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular=
 coil
> can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.
>
> M
>
> I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote=
:
>
>> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..
>>
>> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot?
>> Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused
>> endless tears.
>>
>> Or is it a black/white wire?
>>
>> Worth a look.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Michael
>> Oritt
>> *Sent:* 19 March 2019 17:46
>> *To:* Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the
>> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing
>> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road =
and
>> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start
>> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and id=
led
>> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen
>> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and =
ran
>> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as
>> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition
>> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place=
 as
>> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the co=
il
>> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seem=
ed
>> fine.
>>
>>
>> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turne=
d
>> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started righ=
t
>> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,
>> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the
>> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this wa=
s
>> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to =
a
>> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch
>> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the
>> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selecte=
d
>> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no wa=
y
>> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated=
 I
>> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to
>> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.
>>
>>
>> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The ca=
r
>> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been=
 in
>> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the
>> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. Th=
e
>> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, car=
bon
>> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast
>> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engi=
ne
>> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of=
 it
>> and at the positive coil terminal.
>>
>>
>> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in
>> place of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition
>> switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressu=
re
>> gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both
>> times when the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on,
>> from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source =
of
>> the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wir=
es
>> to and from it seem tight and intact.
>>
>>
>> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without
>> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to
>> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the
>> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with=
 no
>> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not
>> performed any work related to the ignition system. All
>> suggestions/questions welcome?.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
>> http://autox.team.net/archive
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:29:21 -0700
From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CABXhz88U7SBUYAKq8TfFrP8sOR=3DkMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@m=
ail.gmail.com>

I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut off switch and see if that
fixes the problem.
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _=
______
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (_________________________)
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB=C2=A0 [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the
> car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing
> leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road a=
nd
> after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start
> button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idl=
ed
> smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen
> now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and r=
an
> fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as
> earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition
> system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place =
as
> was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coi=
l
> were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seeme=
d
> fine.
>
>
> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned
> on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right
> up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,
> about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the
> problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was
> not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a
> switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch
> between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the
> car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected
> the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way
> like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated =
I
> was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to
> the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.
>
>
> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car
> has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been =
in
> place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the
> distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The
> interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carb=
on
> contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast
> resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engin=
e
> fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of =
it
> and at the positive coil terminal.
>
>
> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in plac=
e
> of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch
> through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge
> sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times wh=
en
> the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which =
I
> conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem=
.
> And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from
> it seem tight and intact.
>
>
> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without
> finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to
> start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the
> issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with =
no
> issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not
> performed any work related to the ignition system. All
> suggestions/questions welcome?.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:46 -0600
From: Engl <engl@accesscomm.ca>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Austin Healey
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Michael

You?ve had some great suggestions from a couple of others, but if those iss=
ues don?t seem to fix the problem, try a different coil. I had the exact sa=
me issues on my E a couple of years ago - turned out to be a wonky 10 year =
old Lucas Sportcoil.=20

Bob England

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>=20
> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the c=
ar suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading=
 up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after =
about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To m=
y surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A=
 bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I wa=
s paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for abo=
ut 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut of=
f the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything see=
med fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the=
 coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the ha=
rness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.
>=20
>=20
> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned=
 on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right =
up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, abou=
t ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the proble=
m did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a f=
uel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch m=
ounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pump=
s as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway=
 speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? posit=
ion it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudd=
enly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing =
with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition syste=
m or to the primary wires that run to it.=20
>=20
>=20
> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car=
 has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been i=
n place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the dist=
ributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The inter=
ior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon cont=
act, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor i=
n the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idlin=
g I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at th=
e positive coil terminal.=20
>=20
>=20
> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in plac=
e of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch th=
rough a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sen=
der line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when th=
e engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I co=
nclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. An=
d though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it =
seem tight and intact.
>=20
>=20
> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without find=
ing something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start =
any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to h=
appen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues wh=
atever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any=
 work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.
>=20
> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>=20
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/arch=
ive
>=20
> Healeys@autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
>=20
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/engl@ac=
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 02:57:58 +0000
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
To: Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com>, Michael Oritt
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.na=
mprd07.prod.outlook.com>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Sounds like a bad coil. The problem they have is temperature related with o=
ne or the other of the windings having a broken wire which is in contact at=
 lower temperatures, but loses continuity when the coil warms up. I drove m=
y old Range Rover classic 300 miles with this problem once with the coil cu=
tting out every 20 miles or so. It is seared in my mind.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
________________________________
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bluehealey <blu=
ehealey@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:36 PM
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Are you using a black rotor arm? I had a similar problem that was resolved =
by changing to a red rotor with no rivet.
Apparently the black colour of the plastic is created by using carbon - whi=
ch can be an HT conductor if a crack appears usually from the rivet.
Keep us all in the loop.
Bluehealey.com<http://Bluehealey.com>

Alan - from my iPad

hael.oritt@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car=
 suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading u=
p to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after ab=
out 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my =
surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A b=
it perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was =
paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about=
 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off =
the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seeme=
d fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the c=
oil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harn=
ess/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.


After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it.


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car h=
as a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in =
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distri=
butor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interio=
r of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contac=
t, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the =
positive coil terminal.


I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place =
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch thro=
ugh a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sende=
r line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the =
engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conc=
lude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And =
though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it se=
em tight and intact.


So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without findin=
g something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start an=
y further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to hap=
pen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues what=
ever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any w=
ork related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.

Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
_______________________________________________

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:02:06 -0700
From: "=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D" <healeymanjim@hansencc.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] sudden stop

my bj8 was doing the same thing many years back.=C2=A0 had a relatively new=
 coil on it, but suspected it might be the culprit.=C2=A0=20
put an old beat up lucas coil on and it is stopped the problem.=C2=A0 coil =
is still on car and says it was made in 65.


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:50:09 +1300
From: Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com>
To: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
Cc: AH Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise
Message-ID:
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Obviously you aren't on "flat rate" ????

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:35 PM Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net> wrote:

> I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it
> tomorrow.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Len and/or Marge Hartnett" <thehartnetts@earthlink.net>
> *To: *"AH Mail List" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 19, 2019 10:56:10 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise
>
> ?
>
> How to get it back in!=C2=A0 Been there. Done that.
>
> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
> *To:* Tom <ah3000me@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise
>
>
>
>> I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7
>> w/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot
>> hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working
>> intermittently and now it's not working
>
> at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm
>> planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from ab=
ove.
>
>
> Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What
> should I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Charlie Schott
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400
From: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and t=
he other was my Petronix
Jon

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>=20
> Hi Michael--
>=20
> Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event =
that happened last week.=C2=A0=20
>=20
> As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replace=
d the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts,=
 so scratch that as a cause.=C2=A0 As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to act=
ually find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing co=
nnection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's=
 etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen.=C2=A0 I'll start=
 by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and se=
e if I can find the offending bit, etc.=C2=A0 If no luck then I'll start on=
 the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has=
 no condenser.
>=20
> Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael
>=20
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com=
> wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>> 100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so i=
t might well be worth checking.
>> The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coi=
l. Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly =
dying.=20
>> Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a signi=
ficant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver whic=
h I at the time, mistakenly,=C2=A0 felt confirmed that the coil was actuall=
y okay ... it wasn't.
>> I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by inst=
alling a replacement.
>> I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which w=
as confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then f=
inding that the engine started immediately.
>> As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engin=
e to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!
>>=C2=A0 I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regula=
r coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.
>>=20
>> M
>>=20
>> I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wro=
te:
>>> I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..
>>>=20
>>> Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot?=
 Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused en=
dless tears.
>>>=20
>>> Or is it a black/white wire?
>>>=20
>>> Worth a look.
>>>=20
>>> Simon
>>>=20
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>=20
>>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Ori=
tt
>>> Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46
>>> To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
>>>=20
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>=20
>>> Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the=
 car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leadi=
ng up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and afte=
r about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To=
 my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly.=
 A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I =
was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for a=
bout 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut =
off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything s=
eemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from t=
he coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the =
harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turn=
ed on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started righ=
t up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, ab=
out ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the prob=
lem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a=
 fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch=
 mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pu=
mps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highw=
ay speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? pos=
ition it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had su=
ddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealin=
g with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition sys=
tem or to the primary wires that run to it.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The c=
ar has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been=
 in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the di=
stributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The int=
erior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon co=
ntact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor=
 in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idl=
ing I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at =
the positive coil terminal.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in pl=
ace of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch =
through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge s=
ender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when =
the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I =
conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. =
And though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from i=
t seem tight and intact.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without fi=
nding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to star=
t any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to=
 happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues =
whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed a=
ny work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.
>>>=20
>>>=C2=A0=20
>>>=20
>>> Best--Michael Oritt, BN1
>>>=20
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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chive
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:08:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>
To: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <1307766788.17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@winds=
tream.net>

I always thought that if a Pertronix goes it goes completely, not stop and =
go.=C2=A0 I could be wrong, but this is what I have been told many times.to=
m
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and t=
he other was my PetronixJon

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote=
:

Hi Michael--
Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event th=
at happened last week.=C2=A0=20
As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced =
the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, s=
o scratch that as a cause.=C2=A0 As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actua=
lly find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing conn=
ection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's e=
tc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen.=C2=A0 I'll start b=
y going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see =
if I can find the offending bit, etc.=C2=A0 If no luck then I'll start on t=
he Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has n=
o condenser.
Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael
On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com> w=
rote:
Hi Michael,
100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it m=
ight well be worth checking.The symptoms sound very similar to those I enco=
untered with a faulty coil. Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly cons=
istently before suddenly dying.=20
Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a signific=
ant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I=
 at the time, mistakenly,=C2=A0 felt confirmed that the coil was actually o=
kay ... it wasn't.
I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by install=
ing a replacement.I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty co=
ndenser which was confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it =
down and then finding that the engine started immediately.As I'm sure you a=
re aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop dead ... i=
t typically sort of peters out!!
 I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil c=
an be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.
M
I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..Do 100s=
 have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s ha=
ve the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears=
.Or is it a black/white wire?Worth a look.Simon From: Healeys <healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46
To: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly Yesterday morning I went out for a dri=
ve and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough run=
ning, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted=
 to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still=
 on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, =
revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to =
see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accele=
rated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in th=
e same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined =
the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firml=
y in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wire=
s to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see =
below) seemed fine.


After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it.=20


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car h=
as a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in =
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distri=
butor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interio=
r of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contac=
t, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the =
positive coil terminal.=20


I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place =
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch thro=
ugh a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sende=
r line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the =
engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conc=
lude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And =
though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it se=
em tight and intact.


So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without findin=
g something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start an=
y further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to hap=
pen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues what=
ever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any w=
ork related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?. Bes=
t--Michael Oritt, BN1_______________________________________________




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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:04:24 +1100
From: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
To: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
Cc: Healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise

My money is on a broken/ missing tooth on the 1st/ reverse idler. On the re=
verse side.
And some collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear.=20
Love to hear the outcome of the autopsy.=20
Good luck, and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before remov=
al.=20
Best
Chris

> On 19 Mar 2019, at 9:36 am, Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>=20
>> I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/ov=
erdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it=
 at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently a=
nd now it's not working=20
>> at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm p=
lanning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.
>=20
> Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What sh=
ould I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Charlie Schott
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:25:40 -0000
From: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
To: "'Tom Felts'" <tomfelts@windstream.net>, "'Jonathan Einhorn'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Austin Healey' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

Yes, that?s what I?d always thought. But, I suppose, thinking something doe=
sn?t always make it so.

Simon

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tom Felts
Sent: 20 March 2019 11:09
To: Jonathan Einhorn <einhornlawoffice@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

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I always thought that if a Pertronix goes it goes completely, not stop and =
go.=C2=A0 I could be wrong, but this is what I have been told many times.

tom

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@gmail.com> >
 >
Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

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Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor and t=
he other was my Petronix

Jon

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On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com <mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com> > wrote:

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Hi Michael--

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Firstly my condolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event th=
at happened last week.=C2=A0=20

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As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced =
the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, s=
o scratch that as a cause.=C2=A0 As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actua=
lly find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing conn=
ection, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's e=
tc. and then waiting for something or nothing to happen.=C2=A0 I'll start b=
y going through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see =
if I can find the offending bit, etc.=C2=A0 If no luck then I'll start on t=
he Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has n=
o condenser.

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Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter <michael.salter@gmail.com <m=
ailto:michael.salter@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Michael,

100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it m=
ight well be worth checking.

The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. =
Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dyi=
ng.=20

Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced a signific=
ant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I=
 at the time, mistakenly,=C2=A0 felt confirmed that the coil was actually o=
kay ... it wasn't.

I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by install=
ing a replacement.

I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was =
confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then find=
ing that the engine started immediately.

As I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine t=
o stop dead ... it typically sort of peters out!!

 I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil c=
an be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.

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M

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I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.

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simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> > wrote:

I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..

Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do =
100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endles=
s tears.

Or is it a black/white wire?

Worth a look.

Simon

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.team.net> > On Behalf Of Michael Oritt
Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46
Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

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Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the car=
 suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading u=
p to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after ab=
out 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my =
surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A b=
it perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I was =
paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about=
 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off =
the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seeme=
d fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the c=
oil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harn=
ess/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.



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After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it.=20



=20


This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car h=
as a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in =
place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distri=
butor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interio=
r of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contac=
t, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the =
positive coil terminal.=20



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I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place =
of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch thro=
ugh a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sende=
r line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the =
engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conc=
lude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And =
though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it se=
em tight and intact.



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So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without findin=
g something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start an=
y further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to hap=
pen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues what=
ever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any w=
ork related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.

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Best--Michael Oritt, BN1

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 06:52:09 -0700
From: "Bruce Steele" <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
To: "'Chris Dimmock'" <austin.healey@gmail.com>, "'Charles Schott'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <schottc@knology.net>
Cc: 'Healey Mail List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise

I agree with Chris.=C2=A0 That was my experience.=C2=A0 Now I have a cluste=
r gear paper weight.

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Bruce Steele

Brea, CA

1960 BN7

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Di=
mmock
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:04 AM
To: Charles Schott <schottc@knology.net>
Cc: Healey Mail List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise

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My money is on a broken/ missing tooth on the 1st/ reverse idler. On the re=
verse side.

And some collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear.=20

Love to hear the outcome of the autopsy.=20

Good luck, and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before remov=
al.=20

Best

Chris


ottc@knology.net> > wrote:

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I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overd=
rive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at=
 all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and =
now it's not working=20

at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm plan=
ning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.

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Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing the noise? What shou=
ld I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks.

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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:32:46 -0700
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly

If the starter cranks well and consistently it's not likely the battery=20
cut-off switch.? I believe Michael indicated he removed the 'anti-theft'=20
white/black wire.

Bob

On 3/19/2019 7:29 PM, i erbs wrote:
> I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut off switch and see if=20
> that fixes the problem.
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
> _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______
> (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:29:11 -0600
From: Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise

On 3/19/19 5:25 PM, Charles Schott wrote:
> I just spent the whole afternoon getting it out and will open up it=20
> tomorrow.
>
Back when I was working at my friend's shop I could drive a TR6 into the=20
shop (assuming it was driveable!) and 2 hours later the gearbox would be=20
on the bench ready to start a rebuild.? Proper tools and fancy lifts are=20
very nice.

On a side note, won't get to the new server this week, but am shooting=20
for next week.? Thanks to all those who contributed.

mjb.




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        <div>Regarding "car dies suddenly", this happened to my BJ8 four ti=
mes over the course of 10 miles--dirty fuel filters proved to be the cause.=
</div><div>rich antal</div><div><br></div>
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v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  1. Re: Car dies sudde=
nly (<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; href=3D"mailto=
:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  2. Re: Car dies suddenly (Elton Schulz)<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  3. Re: Car dies suddenly (Bluehealey)<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  4. Re: Car dies suddenly (skip saunders)<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  5. Re: Gearbox Noise (Charles Schott)<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  6. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Salter)<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  7. Re: Car dies suddenly (Michael Oritt)<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  8. Re: Car dies suddenly (i erbs)<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  9. Re: Car dies suddenly (Engl)<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&nbsp; 10. Re: Car dies suddenly (WILLIAM B LAWRENCE)<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 11. sudden stop (=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D)<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 12. Re: Gearbox Noise (Michael Salter)<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 13. Re: Car dies suddenly (Jonathan Einhorn)<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 14. Re: Car dies suddenly (Tom Felts)<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 15. Re: Gearbox Noise (Chris Dimmock)<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&nbsp; 16. Re: Car dies suddenly (<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 17. Re:=
 Gearbox Noise (Bruce Steele)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 18. Re: Car =
dies suddenly (Bob Spidell)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; 19. Re: Gearbo=
x Noise (Mark J Bradakis)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">--------------------------------------------=
--------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:13 -=
0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan=
@alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>sim=
on.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'Mich=
ael Oritt'" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;, "'Austin Healey=
'"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies =
suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;001101d4de95$37033f00$a5=
09bd00$@alexarevel.plus.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: tex=
t/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Do 100s have the dreade=
d white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch ev=
en? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Or is it a black/white wire?<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Worth a look.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 19 Marc=
h 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car =
dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yesterday morning I went out=
 for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no=
 rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died.=
 I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key=
 was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started imm=
ediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to dr=
ive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The =
car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died a=
gain in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and=
 examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads =
were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The =
power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distrib=
utor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">After scratching my head for a couple o=
f minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start but=
ton. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers crossed=
 I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there without an=
y further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decid=
ed to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-heade=
d SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat whic=
h allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. Whil=
e I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump a=
nd when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it=
 to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier.=
 This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something re=
lated either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. =
The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has=
 been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed t=
he distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. Th=
e interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carb=
on contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast res=
istor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fas=
t-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it an=
d at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure ligh=
t that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It=
 is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch =
mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I poin=
t this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light=
 immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself=
 is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition=
 key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So my ques=
tion is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding somethin=
g that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further =
tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again.=
 BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyo=
nd installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work relate=
d to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
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ernet.net" href=3D"mailto:eschulz@frontiernet.net";>eschulz@frontiernet.net<=
/a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:5C9159FE.7000505@fron=
tiernet.net" href=3D"mailto:5C9159FE.7000505@frontiernet.net";>5C9159FE.7000=
505@frontiernet.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/pl=
ain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; Format=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Michael,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Could it be the=
 battery cutoff switch in the trunk or the black/white <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">wire from that switch to the distributor?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Elton<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 3/19/2019 1:45 PM, Michael Oritt wrote=
:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Yesterday morning I went out for a drive a=
nd after about five miles <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the car suddenly =
died. There was no rough running, sputtering or <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; missing leading up to it---the car simply died. I coasted to the side =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; of the road and after about 30 seconds sinc=
e the key was still on I <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; pushed the start b=
utton. To my surprise the car started immediately, <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to driv=
e <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; on to see what would happen now that I wa=
s paying close attention. The <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; car accelerat=
ed smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key,=
 popped <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the hood and examined the ignition =
system. Everything seemed <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fine---all spark =
plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tig=
ht <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and the harness/connector to the distrib=
utor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; After scratching my head fo=
r a couple of minutes I got in the car, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; tur=
ned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; started right up and ran normally. With fingers crosse=
d I headed for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; my shop/garage, about ten mi=
les away and got there without any further <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue.=
 I have a double-headed <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; SU fuel pump wired =
to a switch mounted just behind the driver's seat <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pum=
p <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; off. While I was running the car at highw=
ay speeds it ran perfectly on <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; either pump a=
nd when I selected the "off" position it slowly lost <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; power as I expected it to---but in no way like it had suddenly tw=
ice <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; died 15 or so minutes earlier. This ind=
icated I was not dealing with a <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fuel issue =
but rather something related either to the ignition system <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied =
to an MSD coil which <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; has been in place and =
performed faultlessly for a number of years. I <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; least visually. The interior of the distributor =
was clean and dry as <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; was the cap, leads, ca=
rbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling =
I tested 12.5 VDC <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; to the resistor and about=
 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; terminal.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I have a large low-oil pressure light that i=
s mounted in the dash in <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; place of the origi=
nal overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; pressure gauge sender line and then to the =
light. I point this out <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; because both times =
when the engine shut down yesterday the light <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; itself is not the source of the problem. And th=
ough I did not remove <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the ignition key swit=
ch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So my =
question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; finding something that appears to be defective but I do=
n't know where <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; to start any further tests, =
etc. I also don't want to simply wait for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; t=
he issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four=
 new plugs last <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; week I have not performed a=
ny work related to the ignition system. All <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 suggestions/questions welcome....<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; __________=
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><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 3<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:36:30 +0000<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fr=
om: Bluehealey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailt=
o:bluehealey@gmail.com">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; hre=
f=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:2A42BBCF-9C06=
-45A2-B558-8F9064EE4034@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:2A42BBCF-9C06-45A2-B558-8=
F9064EE4034@gmail.com">2A42BBCF-9C06-45A2-B558-8F9064EE4034@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you using a black ro=
tor arm? I had a similar problem that was resolved by changing to a red rot=
or with no rivet.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Apparently the black colour of =
the plastic is created by using carbon - which can be an HT conductor if a =
crack appears usually from the rivet.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Keep us all=
 in the loop.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bluehealey.com<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Alan - from my iPad<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:45, Michael Oritt=
 &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.o=
ritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Yesterday morning I went out for=
 a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rou=
gh running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I c=
oasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was=
 still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car started immedia=
tely, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive =
on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention. The car =
accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again=
 in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and exa=
mined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were=
 firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The powe=
r wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor=
 (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; After scratching my head for =
a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the=
 start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With finge=
rs crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there =
without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel relat=
ed I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a do=
uble-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s=
 seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump=
 off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on eit=
her pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I e=
xpected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minute=
s earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather so=
mething related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that =
run to it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and=
 diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied t=
o an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for a numbe=
r of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay=
, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as w=
as the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies t=
he use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil =
and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about=
 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in pla=
ce of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch t=
hrough a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge se=
nder line and then to the light. I point this out because both times when t=
he engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I c=
onclude that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. A=
nd though I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it=
 seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So my question is: What do I =
do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to b=
e defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also =
don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weeke=
nd I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four =
new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition s=
ystem. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir=
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">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 17:41:51 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "sk=
ip saunders" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tfsbj7@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:tfsb=
j7@gmail.com">tfsbj7@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'Mich=
ael Oritt'" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;, "'Austin Healey=
'"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies =
suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;000001d4de9c$907d4420$b1=
77cc60$@gmail.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; c=
harset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Many =
years ago, I had the exact same experience.&nbsp;  It turned out to be a fa=
ulty ignition key switch.&nbsp;  When jouncing around the weight of the key=
 (and associated other keys) would seem to move the switch ever so slightly=
.&nbsp;  I did an autopsy on the switch?.turned out to be extremely robust =
plastic/bakelite but very flimsy metal innards.&nbsp;  I replaced the switc=
h with a GM switch (this was many many years ago?.before concourse was even=
 a thought in my head) and drove the car for another 50-60k miles?. <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best Wishes <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">-skip-<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 1:46 PM<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">To: Austin Healey<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys]=
 Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yesterday morning I wen=
t out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There w=
as no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply =
died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since th=
e key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car starte=
d immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided =
to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention.=
 The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it d=
ied again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hoo=
d and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug l=
eads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor.=
 The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the di=
stributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">After scratching my head for a coup=
le of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the start=
 button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers cro=
ssed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there withou=
t any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related I d=
ecided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-h=
eaded SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat =
which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. =
While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on either pu=
mp and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expecte=
d it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earl=
ier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather somethin=
g related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that run to=
 it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem=
. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which h=
as been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed=
 the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. =
The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, ca=
rbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast r=
esistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine f=
ast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it =
and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a large low-oil pressure li=
ght that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. =
It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switc=
h mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I po=
int this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the lig=
ht immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itse=
lf is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the igniti=
on key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So my qu=
estion is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding someth=
ing that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any furthe=
r tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen agai=
n. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Be=
yond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work rela=
ted to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Charles Schott &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:scho=
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>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett &lt;<a ymailt=
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nk.net">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: AH=
 Mail List &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Messag=
e-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto=
:189186061.2815522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net" href=3D"mailt=
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15522.1553037914250.JavaMail.zimbra@knology.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just spent the whole afternoon getting it =
out and will open up it tomorrow. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Regards, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Charlie <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----- Origin=
al Message -----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From:=
 "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlin=
k.net" href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net";>thehartnetts@earthlink.ne=
t</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "AH Mail List" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healey=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19=
, 2019 10:56:10 AM <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbo=
x Noise <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">How to get it=
 back in! Been there. Done that. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">(The Other) Len=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fairfield, CA, USA <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">1=
967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----- Origin=
al Message ----- <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Charles Schott <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">To: Tom <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Healey Mail List <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;blockquote&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w=
/overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear=
 it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittentl=
y and now it's not working <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;blockquote&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm p=
lanning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from above.=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have any i=
deas about what might be causing the noise? What should I be looking for wh=
en I get it out? Thanks. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Regards, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Charlie =
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></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 14:34:19 +1300<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">From: Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.salter@g=
mail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com=
</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@a=
lexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Heale=
y &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
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ject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:CAB3=
i7LKjePQjA-pNp4SOsMMTAVpJ_iMQmNzzkEOKEXupJSJDuQ@mail.gmail.com" href=3D"mai=
lto:CAB3i7LKjePQjA-pNp4SOsMMTAVpJ_iMQmNzzkEOKEXupJSJDuQ@mail.gmail.com">CAB=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switc=
h so it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">might well be worth checking.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">The symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with =
a faulty coil.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mine would run for about 30 minute=
s fairly consistently before suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">dying.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Even when the engine would not start the bad coil sti=
ll produced a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">significant spark each time the ope=
n points were shorted with a screwdriver<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">which I =
at the time, mistakenly,&nbsp; felt confirmed that the coil was actually<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was=
 only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have en=
countered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">confirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it d=
own and then<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">finding that the engine started imme=
diately.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As I'm sure you are aware a fuel deliver=
y problem never causes the engine<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">to stop dead ..=
. it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> I would reco=
mmend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular coil<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I wonder where the term "peters out" co=
mes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM &lt;<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; href=3D"mailto:simon.lachla=
n@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I?m presuming that t=
he car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Do 100s have the dreaded white wire fro=
m the on/off switch in the boot? Do<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 100s hav=
e the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; endless tears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Worth a look.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From:* Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounce=
s@autox.team.net</a>&gt; *On Behalf Of *Michael<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Oritt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Sent:* 19 March 2019 17:46<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *To:* Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Subject:* [Healeys] Car dies =
suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Yesterday morning=
 I went out for a drive and after about five miles the<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or mis=
sing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; leading up to it?the car simply died. I=
 coasted to the side of the road and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; after a=
bout 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revve=
d freely and idled<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; smoothly. A bit perplexed=
 I decided to drive on to see what would happen<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and=
 ran<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fine for about 1/2 mile and then it die=
d again in the same manner as<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; earlier. I shu=
t off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firm=
ly in place as<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; was the lead from the coil to=
 the distributor. The power wires to the coil<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seeme=
d<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; After scratching m=
y head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car s=
tarted right<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; up and ran normally. With finge=
rs crossed I headed for my shop/garage,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; abou=
t ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; problem did not seem to be fuel related I decided =
to verify that this was<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; not a fuel delivery =
issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; switch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to s=
witch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; between pumps as well as turn the fuel=
 pump off. While I was running the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; car at hi=
ghway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected =
it to?but in no way<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; like it had suddenly twi=
ce died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related eithe=
r to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the ignition system or to the primary w=
ires that run to it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This morning I dove a bit deeper to =
try and diagnose the problem. The car<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; has a =
Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; place and performed faultlessly for a number of y=
ears. I removed the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; distributor cap and ever=
ything appears to be okay, at least visually. The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, =
carbon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory=
 specifies the use of a ballast<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; resistor in =
the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about =
5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and at the positive coil=
 terminal.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I have a large low-oil pressure light that is =
mounted in the dash in place<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; of the original=
 overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; through a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pr=
essure gauge<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; sender line and then to the lig=
ht. I point this out because both times when<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 the engine shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; conclude that the ignition switch itself is=
 not the source of the problem.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; And though I=
 did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So my questio=
n is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t kn=
ow where to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; start any further tests, etc. I =
also don?t want to simply wait for the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; issue=
 to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plug=
s last week I have not<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; performed any work re=
lated to the ignition system. All<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; suggestion=
s/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Best=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 7<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 M=
ar 2019 22:07:21 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Michael Oritt &lt;<a=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gm=
ail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Mich=
ael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto=
:michaelsalter@gmail.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
 href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;=
<a ymailto=3D"mailto:CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@ma=
il.gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmw=
soy6Q@mail.gmail.com">CAPTa0B56QVtJUgiAtx1ZgQ3bVGohaY9tYjpm7QdBbQJmwsoy6Q@m=
ail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; c=
harset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Mi=
chael--<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly my con=
dolences to you and your countrymen for the terrible event<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">that happened last week.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago =
and replaced<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the stock cutoff switch with a super=
ior marine unit with plated contacts,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">so scratch =
that as a cause.&nbsp; As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">find the definite issue such as a defective component o=
r a failing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">connection, etc. rather than launchin=
g into replacing coils, changing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">disty's etc. and=
 then waiting for something or nothing to happen.&nbsp; I'll<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with the =
key switch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">and see if I can find the offending bi=
t, etc.&nbsp; If no luck then I'll start<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on the M=
allory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) ,<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">has no condenser.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 P=
M Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; href=3D=
"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 100's do have the master=
 switch grounding wire to the master switch so it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The symp=
toms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Mine would run for about 30 minutes fairly consisten=
tly before suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; dying.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produ=
ced a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; significant spark each time the open p=
oints were shorted with a screwdriver<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; which =
I at the time, mistakenly,&nbsp; felt confirmed that the coil was actually<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; I have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty conden=
ser which was<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; confirmed by spraying it spari=
ngly with ether to cool it down and then<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fin=
ding that the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; As=
 I'm sure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; to stop dead ... it typically sort of peters ou=
t!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; I would recommend trying the conde=
nser trick and then, if a regular coil<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; can b=
e used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; M<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I wonder where the term "peters out" com=
es from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 P=
M &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; href=3D"mailt=
o:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
; I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Do 100s h=
ave the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot?<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shor=
ting out has caused<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; endless tears.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Or is it a=
 black/white wire?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; Worth a look.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *From:* Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces=
@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; *On Behalf Of *Michael<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&gt; Oritt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Sent:* 19 March 2019 1=
7:46<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *To:* Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Subject:*=
 [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about=
 five miles the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; car suddenly died. There=
 was no rough running, sputtering or missing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
&gt; leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the roa=
d and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; after about 30 seconds since the k=
ey was still on I pushed the start<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; butto=
n. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive=
 on to see what would happen<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; now that I =
was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in =
the same manner as<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; earlier. I shut off t=
he key, popped the hood and examined the ignition<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt; system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly i=
n place as<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; was the lead from the coil to=
 the distributor. The power wires to the coil<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;&gt; were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) s=
eemed<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
; After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; on the ignition and pushed the start bu=
tton. Again, the car started right<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; up an=
d ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; about ten miles away and got there without any fu=
rther event. Though the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; problem did not =
seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel=
 pump wired to a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; switch mounted just beh=
ind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was runnin=
g the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; car at highway speeds it ran perfe=
ctly on either pump and when I selected<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; =
the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so =
minutes earlier. This indicated I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; was no=
t dealing with a fuel issue but rather something related either to<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; the ignition system or to the primary wires that=
 run to it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; This morning I dove a bit deeper =
to try and diagnose the problem. The car<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
 has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been i=
n<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; place and performed faultlessly for a =
number of years. I removed the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; distribut=
or cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; interior of the distributor was clean and dry as w=
as the cap, leads, carbon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; contact, optic=
al reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt; resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and w=
ith the engine<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; fast-idling I tested 12.5=
 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&gt; and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
 I have a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; place of the original overdrive switch. It is=
 wired from the ignition<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; switch through =
a 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; gauge sender line and then to the light. I point this o=
ut because both<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; times when the engine sh=
ut down yesterday the light immediately came on,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt; from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself is not the s=
ource of<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; the problem. And though I did n=
ot remove the ignition key switch the wires<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt; to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; So =
my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; finding something that appears to be defective bu=
t I don?t know where to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; start any furthe=
r tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt; issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 15=
0 miles with no<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; issues whatever. Beyond =
installing four new plugs last week I have not<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt; performed any work related to the ignition system. All<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></d=
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 8<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 19:29:21 -0700<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">From: i erbs &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailt=
o:eyera3000@gmail.com">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=
=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; &lt;CABXhz88U7SBUYAKq8TfFrP8sOR=3D<a ymailto=3D"mailto:kMEXeVKspjeNJn=
bvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:kMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail=
.com">kMEXeVKspjeNJnbvaoKfoRg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut of=
f switch and see if that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">fixes the problem.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Portland,OR<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp; _______<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp;  (______ \_=
___1959 BN4____/ _______)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp;  (_________________________)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BT7 engine and disk brakes<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">1967 MGB&nbsp; [image: =
MG]<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A racing car is an=
 animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar=
 19, 2019 at 1:48 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@g=
mail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after a=
bout five miles the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; car suddenly died. There=
 was no rough running, sputtering or missing<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road an=
d<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; after about 30 seconds since the key was s=
till on I pushed the start<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; button. To my sur=
prise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what =
would happen<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; now that I was paying close att=
ention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and =
examined the ignition<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; system. Everything see=
med fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to=
 the coil<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; were tight and the harness/connect=
or to the distributor (see below) seemed<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fin=
e.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got=
 in the car, turned<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; on the ignition and push=
ed the start button. Again, the car started right<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage=
,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; about ten miles away and got there without=
 any further event. Though the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; problem did n=
ot seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; not a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel =
pump wired to a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; switch mounted just behind t=
he driver?s seat which allows me to switch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; b=
etween pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on eithe=
r pump and when I selected<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. Thi=
s indicated I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; was not dealing with a fuel is=
sue but rather something related either to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; t=
he ignition system or to the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied =
to an MSD coil which has been in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; place and p=
erformed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least v=
isually. The<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; interior of the distributor was=
 clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; resistor in the lead from the power source to the=
 coil and with the engine<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; fast-idling I test=
ed 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I have a=
 large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; of the original overdrive switch. It is wired from t=
he ignition switch<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; through a 10 psi normally=
-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; sender line and then to the light. I point this out because both times=
 when<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the engine shut down yesterday the lig=
ht immediately came on, from which I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; conclud=
e that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem.<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; And though I did not remove the ignition key switch=
 the wires to and from<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; it seem tight and int=
act.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw par=
ts at it without<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; finding something that appe=
ars to be defective but I don?t know where to<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I =
drove about 150 miles with no<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; issues whateve=
r. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; performed any work related to the ignition system. All<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Best--Michael Oritt, BN1<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _______________________________________________<b=
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<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:49:46 -0600<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">From: Engl &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca"; hre=
f=3D"mailto:engl@accesscomm.ca";>engl@accesscomm.ca</a>&gt;<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;,=
 Austin Healey<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Heale=
ys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca"; href=3D"mail=
to:21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca">21AFD356-BFD4-4194-A=
638-0F07EB2C526C@accesscomm.ca</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Ty=
pe: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Michael<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yo=
u?ve had some great suggestions from a couple of others, but if those issue=
s don?t seem to fix the problem, try a different coil. I had the exact same=
 issues on my E a couple of years ago - turned out to be a wonky 10 year ol=
d Lucas Sportcoil. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bo=
b England<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Mar =
19, 2019, at 11:45 AM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt=
@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles the=
 car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing leadi=
ng up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and afte=
r about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. To=
 my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly.=
 A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that I =
was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for a=
bout 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut =
off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything s=
eemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from t=
he coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the =
harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, t=
urned on the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started r=
ight up and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage,=
 about ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the p=
roblem did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was no=
t a fuel delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a swi=
tch mounted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between=
 pumps as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at hi=
ghway speeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? =
position it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had=
 suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dea=
ling with a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition =
system or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This mo=
rning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Ma=
llory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place a=
nd performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor c=
ap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of th=
e distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, opti=
cal reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lea=
d from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I teste=
d 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positiv=
e coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I have a large low-oil pressure light=
 that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive switch. It =
is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed switch m=
ounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. I point=
 this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the light =
immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch itself =
is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ignition =
key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without fi=
nding something that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to star=
t any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to=
 happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues =
whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed a=
ny work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Best--Micha=
el Oritt, BN1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ______________________________=
_________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Support Team.Net <a href=
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e: 10<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 02:57:58 +0000<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:ynot=
ink@msn.com" href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com";>ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Bluehealey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmai=
l.com" href=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com";>bluehealey@gmail.com</a>&gt;, M=
ichael Oritt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>mi=
chael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &=
lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@auto=
x.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subjec=
t: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:DM6PR07=
MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namprd07.prod.outlook.com" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namprd07.=
prod.outlook.com">DM6PR07MB45387DB665592F6674BD9EE6A5410@DM6PR07MB4538.namp=
rd07.prod.outlook.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-125=
2"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sounds like a bad c=
oil. The problem they have is temperature related with one or the other of =
the windings having a broken wire which is in contact at lower temperatures=
, but loses continuity when the coil warms up. I drove my old Range Rover c=
lassic 300 miles with this problem once with the coil cutting out every 20 =
miles or so. It is seared in my mind.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Bill Lawrence<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">BN1 #554<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">________________________________<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=
=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; on behalf of Bluehealey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:bluehealey@gmail.com";>bluehealey@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2019 9:36 PM<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">To: Michael Oritt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you using a black rotor arm? I=
 had a similar problem that was resolved by changing to a red rotor with no=
 rivet.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Apparently the black colour of the plasti=
c is created by using carbon - which can be an HT conductor if a crack appe=
ars usually from the rivet.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Keep us all in the lo=
op.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bluehealey.com&lt;<a href=3D"http://Blueheale=
y.com" target=3D"_blank">http://Bluehealey.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Alan - from my iPad<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 19 Mar 2019, at 17:45, Michael Oritt &lt;=
<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@=
gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:micha=
el.oritt@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@g=
mail.com</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after about five miles t=
he car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputtering or missing lea=
ding up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side of the road and af=
ter about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed the start button. =
To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freely and idled smoothl=
y. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what would happen now that =
I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for=
 about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shu=
t off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition system. Everything=
 seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from=
 the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coil were tight and th=
e harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">After =
scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the =
ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up and r=
an normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten mi=
les away and got there without any further event. Though the problem did no=
t seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel deli=
very issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted j=
ust behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as wel=
l as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds =
it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it s=
lowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twi=
ce died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a f=
uel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system or to =
the primary wires that run to it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to =
try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system=
 tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and performed faultlessly for =
a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and everything appears to =
be okay, at least visually. The interior of the distributor was clean and d=
ry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory spec=
ifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from the power source to th=
e coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor an=
d about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil terminal.<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have =
a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the =
original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 1=
0 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line =
and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engine =
shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude th=
at the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though =
I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tigh=
t and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">So my question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts a=
t it without finding something that appears to be defective but I don?t kno=
w where to start any further tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait f=
or the issue to happen again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles =
with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have =
not performed any work related to the ignition system. All suggestions/ques=
tions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best--=
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age: 11<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2019 20:02:06 -0700<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "=3D?utf-8?Q?healeymanjim?=3D" &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeymanjim@hansencc.=
net">healeymanjim@hansencc.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] sudden stop<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:20190320030206.31219.qmail@se=
rver278.com" href=3D"mailto:20190320030206.31219.qmail@server278.com";>20190=
320030206.31219.qmail@server278.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Conte=
nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">my bj8 was doing the same thing many years back.&nbsp; had=
 a relatively new coil on it, but suspected it might be the culprit.&nbsp; =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">put an old beat up lucas coil on and it is stopp=
ed the problem.&nbsp; coil is still on car and says it was made in 65.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Message: 12<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 18:5=
0:09 +1300<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>=
michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Charles Scho=
tt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=3D"mailto:schottc@kno=
logy.net">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: AH Mail=
 List &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CAB3i7LJ=3DvLGBhSjfVgDQXf=
RYUh9g2F1mSoMhGikJ+<a ymailto=3D"mailto:634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com"; href=3D"m=
ailto:634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com">634i-ktbw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Obviously you aren't on "flat rate" ?=
???<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Mar 20, 20=
19 at 6:35 PM Charles Schott &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; =
href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net";>schottc@knology.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I just spent the whol=
e afternoon getting it out and will open up it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; tomorrow.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Char=
lie<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ---------=
---------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From: *"Len and/or Ma=
rge Hartnett" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net"; href=3D"=
mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net";>thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>&gt;<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *To: *"AH Mail List" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.t=
eam.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Sent: *Tuesday, March 19, 2=
019 10:56:10 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Gea=
rbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; How to get it=
 back in!&nbsp; Been there. Done that.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; (The Other) Len<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Fa=
irfield, CA, USA<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39=
031<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ----- Ori=
ginal Message -----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *From:* Charles Schott &=
lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology=
.net">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *To:* Tom =
&lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:ah3000me@gmail.=
com">ah3000me@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; *Cc:* Healey=
 Mail List &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2019 3:36 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in re=
verse (1960 BT7<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; w/overdrive) It's much l=
ess noticeable in first and second and I cannot<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; hear it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; intermittently and now it's not working<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; at all. The O/=
D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get=
 it out from above.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Does anyone have any ideas about what=
 might be causing the noise? What<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; should I b=
e looking for when I get it out? Thanks.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Charlie Schott<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 13<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">From: Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.co=
m" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:=
michael.oritt@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.or=
itt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.n=
et">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [=
Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:F5D5F3E8-7DD2-4ED8-A974-92A0AA1F1890@gmail.com"; href=3D"mail=
to:F5D5F3E8-7DD2-4ED8-A974-92A0AA1F1890@gmail.com">F5D5F3E8-7DD2-4ED8-A974-=
92A0AA1F1890@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text=
/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Two things that have caused this to happen to me: one was a bad rotor a=
nd the other was my Petronix<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jon<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Mich=
ael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:=
michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hi Michael--<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Firstly my condolences=
 to you and your countrymen for the terrible event that happened last week.=
&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; As t=
o the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it out long ago and replaced the =
stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit with plated contacts, so sc=
ratch that as a cause.&nbsp; As I posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually =
find the definite issue such as a defective component or a failing connecti=
on, etc. rather than launching into replacing coils, changing disty's etc. =
and then waiting for something or nothing to happen.&nbsp; I'll start by go=
ing through the ignition circuit beginning with the key switch and see if I=
 can find the offending bit, etc.&nbsp; If no luck then I'll start on the M=
allory Unilite which, being an electronic system (Hall Effect?) , has no co=
ndenser.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Tha=
nks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM =
Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com"; href=3D"m=
ailto:michael.salter@gmail.com">michael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hi Michael,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt; 100's do have the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so =
it might well be worth checking.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The sym=
ptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine wo=
uld run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Even when the engine would not start the b=
ad coil still produced a significant spark each time the open points were s=
horted with a screwdriver which I at the time, mistakenly,&nbsp; felt confi=
rmed that the coil was actually okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt; I was only able to confirm that the villain was in fact the coi=
l by installing a replacement.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have en=
countered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was confirmed=
 by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then finding that =
the engine started immediately.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; As I'm s=
ure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop d=
ead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
;&nbsp; I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then, if a regular=
 coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substitution.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; M<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I wonder wh=
ere the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:sim=
on.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plu=
s.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You make referenc=
e to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off s=
witch in the boot? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting=
 out has caused endless tears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Or is it a black/white wire?<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Worth a=
 look.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt;&gt; Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:hea=
leys-bounces@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"=
>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; To: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net=
</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [Healeys] Car dies=
 suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Yesterday morning I went out for a drive and after=
 about five miles the car suddenly died. There was no rough running, sputte=
ring or missing leading up to it?the car simply died. I coasted to the side=
 of the road and after about 30 seconds since the key was still on I pushed=
 the start button. To my surprise the car started immediately, revved freel=
y and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided to drive on to see what wou=
ld happen now that I was paying close attention. The car accelerated smooth=
ly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it died again in the same manne=
r as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the hood and examined the ignition=
 system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug leads were firmly in place a=
s was the lead from the coil to the distributor. The power wires to the coi=
l were tight and the harness/connector to the distributor (see below) seeme=
d fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; After scratching my hea=
d for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and push=
ed the start button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With=
 fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got =
there without any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel=
 related I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I hav=
e a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the dr=
iver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fue=
l pump off. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly =
on either pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power =
as I expected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so =
minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rat=
her something related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires=
 that run to it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; This morning =
I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The car has a Mallory =
Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has been in place and per=
formed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the distributor cap and=
 everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The interior of the dist=
ributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon contact, optical re=
ader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resistor in the lead from=
 the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-idling I tested 12.5=
 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at the positive coil=
 terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; I have a large low-=
oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original ove=
rdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normal=
ly-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to =
the light. I point this out because both times when the engine shut down ye=
sterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignit=
ion switch itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not re=
move the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact=
.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; So my question is: What do I =
do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that appears to b=
e defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc. I also =
don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over the weeke=
nd I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond installing four =
new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the ignition s=
ystem. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Best--Michael Ori=
tt, BN1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 14<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 07:08:39 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">From: Tom Felts &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net"=
 href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:einho=
rnlawoffice@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornla=
woffice@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<=
a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: R=
e: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:1307766788.=
17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net" href=3D"mailto:13077=
66788.17004904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net">1307766788.170=
04904.1553080119370.JavaMail.zimbra@windstream.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I always thought that if a Pertronix goes i=
t goes completely, not stop and go.&nbsp; I could be wrong, but this is wha=
t I have been told many times.tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----- Original =
Message -----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gm=
ail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: M=
ichael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mail=
to:michael.oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:09 -0400 (EDT)<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Two things that have caused this to h=
appen to me: one was a bad rotor and the other was my PetronixJon<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"=
>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael--<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly my condole=
nces to you and your countrymen for the terrible event that happened last w=
eek.&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culpri=
t I tore it out long ago and replaced the stock cutoff switch with a superi=
or marine unit with plated contacts, so scratch that as a cause.&nbsp; As I=
 posted elsewhere I am hoping to actually find the definite issue such as a=
 defective component or a failing connection, etc. rather than launching in=
to replacing coils, changing disty's etc. and then waiting for something or=
 nothing to happen.&nbsp; I'll start by going through the ignition circuit =
beginning with the key switch and see if I can find the offending bit, etc.=
&nbsp; If no luck then I'll start on the Mallory Unilite which, being an el=
ectronic system (Hall Effect?) , has no condenser.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Thanks for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>mi=
chael.salter@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael,=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">100's do have the master switch grounding wire t=
o the master switch so it might well be worth checking.The symptoms sound v=
ery similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine would run for a=
bout 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Even when the engine would not start the bad coil still produced=
 a significant spark each time the open points were shorted with a screwdri=
ver which I at the time, mistakenly,&nbsp; felt confirmed that the coil was=
 actually okay ... it wasn't.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was only able to =
confirm that the villain was in fact the coil by installing a replacement.I=
 have encountered very similar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was c=
onfirmed by spraying it sparingly with ether to cool it down and then findi=
ng that the engine started immediately.As I'm sure you are aware a fuel del=
ivery problem never causes the engine to stop dead ... it typically sort of=
 peters out!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> I would recommend trying the conde=
nser trick and then, if a regular coil can be used as a substitute for the =
Mallory try a substitution.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?m =
presuming that the car?s a 100? You make reference to 4 plugs?..Do 100s hav=
e the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot? Do 100s have t=
he switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused endless tears.Or =
is it a black/white wire?Worth a look.Simon From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Michael Ori=
tt<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">To: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; hr=
ef=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly Yesterday morning I=
 went out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. The=
re was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car sim=
ply died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds sinc=
e the key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car st=
arted immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I deci=
ded to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attent=
ion. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then =
it died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the=
 hood and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark pl=
ug leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distribu=
tor. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to th=
e distributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">After scratching my head for a =
couple of minutes I got in the car, turned on the ignition and pushed the s=
tart button. Again, the car started right up and ran normally. With fingers=
 crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about ten miles away and got there wi=
thout any further event. Though the problem did not seem to be fuel related=
 I decided to verify that this was not a fuel delivery issue. I have a doub=
le-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mounted just behind the driver?s s=
eat which allows me to switch between pumps as well as turn the fuel pump o=
ff. While I was running the car at highway speeds it ran perfectly on eithe=
r pump and when I selected the ?off? position it slowly lost power as I exp=
ected it to?but in no way like it had suddenly twice died 15 or so minutes =
earlier. This indicated I was not dealing with a fuel issue but rather some=
thing related either to the ignition system or to the primary wires that ru=
n to it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the pro=
blem. The car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil whi=
ch has been in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I rem=
oved the distributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visual=
ly. The interior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads=
, carbon contact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a balla=
st resistor in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engi=
ne fast-idling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of=
 it and at the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have a large low-oil pressur=
e light that is mounted in the dash in place of the original overdrive swit=
ch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a 10 psi normally-closed s=
witch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender line and then to the light. =
I point this out because both times when the engine shut down yesterday the=
 light immediately came on, from which I conclude that the ignition switch =
itself is not the source of the problem. And though I did not remove the ig=
nition key switch the wires to and from it seem tight and intact.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So m=
y question is: What do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding so=
mething that appears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any fu=
rther tests, etc. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen =
again. BTW over the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever=
. Beyond installing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work =
related to the ignition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?. Best--M=
ichael Oritt, BN1_______________________________________________<br></div><=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 15<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 =
Mar 2019 23:04:24 +1100<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Chris Dimmock &lt;<=
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v dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:1476F24E-E3FE-4453-8D7A-7C253F113C75=
@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:1476F24E-E3FE-4453-8D7A-7C253F113C75@gmail.com";>=
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"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">My money is on a broken/ missing tooth on th=
e 1st/ reverse idler. On the reverse side.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">And so=
me collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear. <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Love to hear the outcome of the autopsy. <br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Good luck, and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before=
 removal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chris<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On 19 Mar 2019, at=
 9:36 am, Charles Schott &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=
=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net";>schottc@knology.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have a very loud ba=
nging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/overdrive) It's much less =
noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear it at all in third and fou=
rth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently and now it's not working =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; at all. The O/D cut out switch on the g=
earbox is working properly. I'm planning on pulling the gearbox out and I t=
hink I can get it out from above.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causin=
g the noise? What should I be looking for when I get it out? Thanks.<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards,<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Charlie Schott<br></d=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:25:40 -0000<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">From: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; hre=
f=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plu=
s.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'Tom Felts'" &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net"; href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>to=
mfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt;, "'Jonathan Einhorn'"<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; =
href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: 'Austin Healey' &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:h=
ealeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies=
 suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;000501d4df20$6bfb3600$4=
3f1a200$@alexarevel.plus.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: te=
xt/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Yes, that?s what I?d always thought. But, I suppose, thinking somethi=
ng doesn?t always make it so.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Simon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailt=
o=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Tom Fel=
ts<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 20 March 2019 11:09<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">To: Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.=
com" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhornlawoffice@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car d=
ies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I always thought that if a Pe=
rtronix goes it goes completely, not stop and go.&nbsp; I could be wrong, b=
ut this is what I have been told many times.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">tom<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">----- Original =
Message -----<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Jonathan Einhorn &lt;<a ymail=
to=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gm=
ail.com">einhornlawoffice@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:ein=
hornlawoffice@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:einhornlawoffice@gmail.com";>einhorn=
lawoffice@gmail.com</a>&gt; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Michael Orit=
t &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.=
oritt@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:michael.oritt@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.=
oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Austin Healey &l=
t;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 05:08:0=
9 -0400 (EDT)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies sud=
denly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Two things that have caused this to =
happen to me: one was a bad rotor and the other was my Petronix<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPhone<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mar 19, 2019, at 10:07 PM, Michael Oritt &l=
t;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; href=3D"mailto:michael.orit=
t@gmail.com">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:mi=
chael.oritt@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.orit=
t@gmail.com</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael=
--<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Firstly my condolences to you and your =
countrymen for the terrible event that happened last week.&nbsp; <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As to the B/W wire's being the culprit I tore it ou=
t long ago and replaced the stock cutoff switch with a superior marine unit=
 with plated contacts, so scratch that as a cause.&nbsp; As I posted elsewh=
ere I am hoping to actually find the definite issue such as a defective com=
ponent or a failing connection, etc. rather than launching into replacing c=
oils, changing disty's etc. and then waiting for something or nothing to ha=
ppen.&nbsp; I'll start by going through the ignition circuit beginning with=
 the key switch and see if I can find the offending bit, etc.&nbsp; If no l=
uck then I'll start on the Mallory Unilite which, being an electronic syste=
m (Hall Effect?) , has no condenser.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank=
s for the input and we'll stay in touch--Michael<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:34 PM Michael Salter &lt;<a ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:michael.salter@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>mi=
chael.salter@gmail.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:michael.salter@g=
mail.com" href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>michael.salter@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">H=
i Michael,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">100's do ha=
ve the master switch grounding wire to the master switch so it might well b=
e worth checking.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The =
symptoms sound very similar to those I encountered with a faulty coil. Mine=
 would run for about 30 minutes fairly consistently before suddenly dying. =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Even when the engine =
would not start the bad coil still produced a significant spark each time t=
he open points were shorted with a screwdriver which I at the time, mistake=
nly,&nbsp; felt confirmed that the coil was actually okay ... it wasn't.<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I was only able to confi=
rm that the villain was in fact the coil by installing a replacement.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I have encountered very sim=
ilar symptoms with a faulty condenser which was confirmed by spraying it sp=
aringly with ether to cool it down and then finding that the engine started=
 immediately.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As I'm s=
ure you are aware a fuel delivery problem never causes the engine to stop d=
ead ... it typically sort of peters out!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"> I would recommend trying the condenser trick and then,=
 if a regular coil can be used as a substitute for the Mallory try a substi=
tution.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>I wonder where the term "peters out" comes from ... Google time.<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 2:13 PM &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lac=
hlan@alexarevel.plus.com" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"=
>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?m presuming that the car?s a 100? You ma=
ke reference to 4 plugs?..<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Do 100s have the dreaded white wire from the on/off switch in the boot=
? Do 100s have the switch even? Anyhow, that wire shorting out has caused e=
ndless tears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Or is it=
 a black/white wire?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">W=
orth a look.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Simon<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Healeys &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>he=
aleys-bounces@autox.team.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
unces@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; &gt; On Behalf Of Michael Oritt<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 19 March 2019 17:46<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Aus=
tin Healey &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:=
healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>heal=
eys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; &gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [Healeys=
] Car dies suddenly<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Yesterday morning I we=
nt out for a drive and after about five miles the car suddenly died. There =
was no rough running, sputtering or missing leading up to it?the car simply=
 died. I coasted to the side of the road and after about 30 seconds since t=
he key was still on I pushed the start button. To my surprise the car start=
ed immediately, revved freely and idled smoothly. A bit perplexed I decided=
 to drive on to see what would happen now that I was paying close attention=
. The car accelerated smoothly and ran fine for about 1/2 mile and then it =
died again in the same manner as earlier. I shut off the key, popped the ho=
od and examined the ignition system. Everything seemed fine?all spark plug =
leads were firmly in place as was the lead from the coil to the distributor=
. The power wires to the coil were tight and the harness/connector to the d=
istributor (see below) seemed fine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
After scratching my head for a couple of minutes I got in the car, turned o=
n the ignition and pushed the start button. Again, the car started right up=
 and ran normally. With fingers crossed I headed for my shop/garage, about =
ten miles away and got there without any further event. Though the problem =
did not seem to be fuel related I decided to verify that this was not a fue=
l delivery issue. I have a double-headed SU fuel pump wired to a switch mou=
nted just behind the driver?s seat which allows me to switch between pumps =
as well as turn the fuel pump off. While I was running the car at highway s=
peeds it ran perfectly on either pump and when I selected the ?off? positio=
n it slowly lost power as I expected it to?but in no way like it had sudden=
ly twice died 15 or so minutes earlier. This indicated I was not dealing wi=
th a fuel issue but rather something related either to the ignition system =
or to the primary wires that run to it. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">This morning I dove a bit deeper to try and diagnose the problem. The =
car has a Mallory Unilite ignition system tied to an MSD coil which has bee=
n in place and performed faultlessly for a number of years. I removed the d=
istributor cap and everything appears to be okay, at least visually. The in=
terior of the distributor was clean and dry as was the cap, leads, carbon c=
ontact, optical reader, etc. Mallory specifies the use of a ballast resisto=
r in the lead from the power source to the coil and with the engine fast-id=
ling I tested 12.5 VDC to the resistor and about 5.5-6 VDC out of it and at=
 the positive coil terminal. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I hav=
e a large low-oil pressure light that is mounted in the dash in place of th=
e original overdrive switch. It is wired from the ignition switch through a=
 10 psi normally-closed switch mounted in the oil pressure gauge sender lin=
e and then to the light. I point this out because both times when the engin=
e shut down yesterday the light immediately came on, from which I conclude =
that the ignition switch itself is not the source of the problem. And thoug=
h I did not remove the ignition key switch the wires to and from it seem ti=
ght and intact.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">So my question is: W=
hat do I do? I hate to throw parts at it without finding something that app=
ears to be defective but I don?t know where to start any further tests, etc=
. I also don?t want to simply wait for the issue to happen again. BTW over =
the weekend I drove about 150 miles with no issues whatever. Beyond install=
ing four new plugs last week I have not performed any work related to the i=
gnition system. All suggestions/questions welcome?.<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
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><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 17<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2=
019 06:52:09 -0700<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "Bruce Steele" &lt;<a ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:healeybruce@roadrunner.com"; href=3D"mailto:healeybruce@road=
runner.com">healeybruce@roadrunner.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To=
: "'Chris Dimmock'" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com"; href=
=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com";>austin.healey@gmail.com</a>&gt;, "'Char=
les Schott'"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net";>schottc@kn=
ology.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: 'Healey Mail List' &lt;<a y=
mailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: =
[Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;04f901d4d=
f24$1e4a9cd0$5adfd670$@roadrunner.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content=
-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">I agree with Chris.&nbsp; That was my experience.&nbsp; Now =
I have a cluster gear paper weight.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bruce =
Steele<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brea, CA<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">1960 BN7<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">From: Healeys [mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@=
autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2019 5:04 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Cha=
rles Schott &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=3D"mailto:sc=
hottc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc=
: Healey Mail List &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">My money is on a broken/ missing tooth on the 1st/ reverse idler. =
On the reverse side.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">A=
nd some collateral damage on 1st on the cluster/ 1st slider gear. <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Love to hear the outcome of th=
e autopsy. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Good luck,=
 and carefully check/ strain the contents of the oil before removal. <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Best<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Chris<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 19 Mar 2019, at 9:36 am, Charl=
es Schott &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net"; href=3D"mailto:scho=
ttc@knology.net">schottc@knology.net</a> &lt;mailto:<a ymailto=3D"mailto:sc=
hottc@knology.net" href=3D"mailto:schottc@knology.net";>schottc@knology.net<=
/a>&gt; &gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">I have a very loud banging noise in my gearbox in reverse (1960 BT7 w/=
overdrive) It's much less noticeable in first and second and I cannot hear =
it at all in third and fourth. Also, the O/D started working intermittently=
 and now it's not working <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">at all. The O/D cut out switch on the gearbox is working properly. I'm=
 planning on pulling the gearbox out and I think I can get it out from abov=
e.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does anyone have any ideas about what m=
ight be causing the noise? What should I be looking for when I get it out? =
Thanks.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
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<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Bob Spidell &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:bspid=
ell@comcast.net" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net<=
/a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.te=
am.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Car dies suddenly<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:dcebb665-6235-f96d-24=
f1-1f1ba8dd77a4@comcast.net" href=3D"mailto:dcebb665-6235-f96d-24f1-1f1ba8d=
d77a4@comcast.net">dcebb665-6235-f96d-24f1-1f1ba8dd77a4@comcast.net</a>&gt;=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; For=
mat=3D"flowed"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">If the =
starter cranks well and consistently it's not likely the battery <br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">cut-off switch.? I believe Michael indicated he removed th=
e 'anti-theft' <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">white/black wire.<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">On 3/19/2019 7:29 PM, i erbs wrote:<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; I'm with everyone else. bypass the battery cut off switch and=
 see if <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; that fixes the problem.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Ira Erbs<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Portland,OR<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; (_________________________)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ? ? ? ? ? =
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r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 19<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2019 10:29:11 -0600<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">From: Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com"; href=
=3D"mailto:mark@bradakis.com";>mark@bradakis.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:he=
aleys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gearbox Noise<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: =
&lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:5934b943-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com"=
 href=3D"mailto:5934b943-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com";>5934b943=
-c2bd-f1ed-1253-17642552b0d9@bradakis.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On 3/19/19 5:25 PM, Charles Schott wr=
ote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I just spent the whole afternoon gettin=
g it out and will open up it <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; tomorrow.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Back when I was workin=
g at my friend's shop I could drive a TR6 into the <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">shop (assuming it was driveable!) and 2 hours later the gearbox would be=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on the bench ready to start a rebuild.? Proper =
tools and fancy lifts are <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">very nice.<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On a side note, won't get to the =
new server this week, but am shooting <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">for next w=
eek.? Thanks to all those who contributed.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">mjb.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Digest Footer<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
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