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To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys
From: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:29:52 -0600 (MDT)
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Agreed - or 5 spd Toyota transmissions ... !!
rg
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Cc: Price Lindsay <050.rpl@gmail.com>, pbrauen@gmail.com, Tom McCay 
<Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com>, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:29:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys

Real Healeys don't have alternators \uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD23
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 1:45 PM Roger Grace, <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
In any event, unless you are doing significantly more idling than driving this 
drawdown duning idling is not really significant. This is what the battery is 
for. If you had an ammeter you would see the amps pick up after idling to bring 
the batt back up to full volts.

Of couse you need a good batt, and alternator.

rg


----- Original Message -----

From: R. Lindsay <050.rpl@gmail.com>

To: Tom McCay <Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com>

Cc: pbrauen@gmail.com, Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>

Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:59:08 -0600 (MDT)

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys


Thank you!


Price Lindsay


Cell: 630-841-6300

Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone


> On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tom McCay <Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com> wrote:

> 

> Hi Price, alternators do not kick in until they are rotating at about 1200 
> alternator RPM. The pulley ratio is approximately 3:1 when comparing the 
> bottom crank pulley to the alternator pulley. At idle of 800 RPM the 
> alternator would be rotating at 2400 RPM so you should have a good output at 
> idle. The smaller the alternator pulley the faster it will spin.

> 

> Kindest regards

> 

> Tom McCay

> Director

> www.ccw-tools.com

> Tel: 01522 888178

> ________________________________________

> From: Healeys [healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay 
> [050.rpl@gmail.com]

> Sent: 12 August 2019 23:19

> To: warthodson@aol.com; pbrauen@gmail.com; Healey List

> Subject: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys

> 

> I have installed an alternator in my BJ8 to support ac with mixed success. 
> Since our cars use a v-belt system I had to replace the pulley that came with 
> the alternator(serpentine) with a v-belt pulley.  I have checked the power 
> the alternator and at idle, it is below the amperage needed to run the 
> equipment I have installed.

> 

> When I look at the circumference of the v-belt pulley and the serpentine 
> pulley, the v-belt is definitely smaller. Should I use a v-belt pulley of 
> similar size?  Increasing the circumference of the pulley will make the 
> alternator spin faster and maybe solve my issue of slow engine speed/low amp 
> output, I think.

> 

> If my thinking is correct, how big of a pulley should I use?  I presume that 
> if the pulley is too large, it may make the alternator produce too many amps 
> and damage it.  Should I match the size of the serpentine pulley or buy a 
> pulley based on a calculation?  (FWIW, I have no knowledge/experience to do 
> this).

> 

> The pulleys on the crank and water pump are standard Healey. There is ac 
> installed and the pulley on the compressor is larger than the old generator. 
> I have a two belt system so the alternator is belted to the compressor which 
> if what I said above about larger pulleys spin their equipment faster, how 
> should this be accounted for?

> 

> I may be over thinking this but I would like to run the ac at a reasonable 
> idle. Has anyone approached this and came up with a resolution?

> 

> Thank you so much for any light that can be shed on this.

> 

> Price Lindsay

> 

> Cell: 630-841-6300

> Email: 050.rpl@gmail.com

> 

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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Agreed - or 5=
 spd Toyota transmissions ... !!<br></div><div>rg<br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"><=
/div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael Salt=
er &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: Roger Grace &lt;roggrace@telus.ne=
t&gt;<br>Cc: Price Lindsay &lt;050.rpl@gmail.com&gt;, pbrauen@gmail.com, To=
m McCay &lt;Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com&gt;, Healey List &lt;healeys@autox.team=
.net&gt;<br>Sent: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:29:01 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [He=
aleys] Alternator Pulleys<br></div><div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Real He=
aleys don't have alternators \uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD23\uD83E\uDD23</div><div=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Tue, Aug 13, 2019, 1:45 PM Roger Grace, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:roggrace@=
telus.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net";>ro=
ggrace@telus.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex=
;" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; paddi=
ng-left: 1ex;">In any event, unless you are doing significantly more idling=
 than driving this drawdown duning idling is not really significant. This i=
s what the battery is for. If you had an ammeter you would see the amps pic=
k up after idling to bring the batt back up to full volts.<br><div><br></di=
v>Of couse you need a good batt, and alternator.<br><div><br></div>rg<br><d=
iv><br></div><br>----- Original Message -----<br><div><br></div>From: R. Li=
ndsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com";>050.rpl@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;<br><div><br></div>To: Tom McCay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tom.McCay@ccw-tool=
s.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:Tom.McC=
ay@ccw-tools.com">Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com</a>&gt;<br><div><br></div>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com";>pbrauen@gmail.com</a>, Healey List &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noref=
errer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt;<br><div><br></div>Sent: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 16:59:08 -0600 (MDT)<br=
><div><br></div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Alternator Pulleys<br><div><br></div=
><br>Thank you!<br><div><br></div><br>Price Lindsay<br><div><br></div><br>C=
ell: 630-841-6300<br><div><br></div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@g=
mail.com">050.rpl@gmail.com</a><br><div><br></div><br>Sent from my iPhone<b=
r><div><br></div><br>&gt; On Aug 12, 2019, at 6:39 PM, Tom McCay &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" d=
ata-mce-href=3D"mailto:Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com";>Tom.McCay@ccw-tools.com</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; Hi Price, altern=
ators do not kick in until they are rotating at about 1200 alternator RPM. =
The pulley ratio is approximately 3:1 when comparing the bottom crank pulle=
y to the alternator pulley. At idle of 800 RPM the alternator would be rota=
ting at 2400 RPM so you should have a good output at idle. The smaller the =
alternator pulley the faster it will spin.<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div>=
<br></div>&gt; Kindest regards<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&g=
t; Tom McCay<br><div><br></div>&gt; Director<br><div><br></div>&gt; <a href=
=3D"http://www.ccw-tools.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blan=
k" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.ccw-tools.com";>www.ccw-tools.com</a><br><div=
><br></div>&gt; Tel: 01522 888178<br><div><br></div>&gt; __________________=
______________________<br><div><br></div>&gt; From: Healeys [<a href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" da=
ta-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of R. Lindsay [<a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmai=
l.com">050.rpl@gmail.com</a>]<br><div><br></div>&gt; Sent: 12 August 2019 2=
3:19<br><div><br></div>&gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.com"=
>warthodson@aol.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com"; target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:pbrauen@gmail.com";>pbrauen@=
gmail.com</a>; Healey List<br><div><br></div>&gt; Subject: [Healeys] Altern=
ator Pulleys<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; I have installe=
d an alternator in my BJ8 to support ac with mixed success. Since our cars =
use a v-belt system I had to replace the pulley that came with the alternat=
or(serpentine) with a v-belt pulley.&nbsp; I have checked the power the alt=
ernator and at idle, it is below the amperage needed to run the equipment I=
 have installed.<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; When I look=
 at the circumference of the v-belt pulley and the serpentine pulley, the v=
-belt is definitely smaller. Should I use a v-belt pulley of similar size?&=
nbsp; Increasing the circumference of the pulley will make the alternator s=
pin faster and maybe solve my issue of slow engine speed/low amp output, I =
think.<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; If my thinking is cor=
rect, how big of a pulley should I use?&nbsp; I presume that if the pulley =
is too large, it may make the alternator produce too many amps and damage i=
t.&nbsp; Should I match the size of the serpentine pulley or buy a pulley b=
ased on a calculation?&nbsp; (FWIW, I have no knowledge/experience to do th=
is).<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; The pulleys on the cran=
k and water pump are standard Healey. There is ac installed and the pulley =
on the compressor is larger than the old generator. I have a two belt syste=
m so the alternator is belted to the compressor which if what I said above =
about larger pulleys spin their equipment faster, how should this be accoun=
ted for?<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; I may be over think=
ing this but I would like to run the ac at a reasonable idle. Has anyone ap=
proached this and came up with a resolution?<br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><di=
v><br></div>&gt; Thank you so much for any light that can be shed on this.<=
br><div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; Price Lindsay<br><div><br></=
div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; Cell: 630-841-6300<br><div><br></div>&gt; =
Email: <a href=3D"mailto:050.rpl@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
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div><br></div>&gt; <br><div><br></div>&gt; Sent from my iPhone<br><div><br>=
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