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To: "Mike Tobin" <ahbt71@gmail.com>, "Chris Dimmock" <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD Problem?
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operate the lever on the right side of the overdrive and you will =
release the pressure in the system


David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

From: Mike Tobin=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:18 AM
To: Chris Dimmock=20
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] OD Problem?

Hit the OD with a hammer once and the problem went away.=20
Ran up the pressure again and the problem was back.  This time it took a =
number of pretty good whacks to get it unstuck.
Pressurized it a third time and now it won't unstick after a lot of good =
whacks.  I'm reluctant to hit it any harder.
Unless there are any other ideas, I guess the damn thing comes out and =
apart again.
Cheers,
Mike

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:01 AM Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com> =
wrote:

  Nah.=20
  Just tap the steel ring in the overdrive with your knock off hammer to =
release the springs.=20
  Works every time. For me anyway.=20
  The springs release the overdrive, and sometimes, they get just get =
stuck.=20
  It's a mystery of the world.=20
  But a few taps on that steel plate seems to realign the planets. And =
release those pesky springs!
  Allegedly.=20
  Worked for me. 3 times in the past 35 years. Mostly when I'd driven =
the car hard.=20
  But it seems to fix the issue, when you can't select reverse.=20
  And it's so much easier on the bench, than on your back, lying under =
the car!=20
  Best=20
  Chris.=20



  On 20 Aug 2019, at 10:20 pm, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote:


    Hi Mike,=20
    I recently experienced exactly the same problem with newly rebuilt a =
BT7 side shift gearbox and overdrive unit when turning it backwards =
before adding oil.
    Like you I suspected the Sprague clutch but after considerable =
investigation the cause turned out to be the new 2nd gear syncro ring =
which, when the box was turned backwards, was winding itself tightly =
onto the cone of 2nd gear.=20
    This is something I've never experienced before but concluded that =
it was unlikely to present a problem after the box has be run with new =
oil.
    This may not be the cause in your case but certainly it is something =
worth considering.=20
    M

    On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 10:54 PM Mike Tobin, <ahbt71@gmail.com> wrote:

            Hello Again,=20

            Finally got oil pressure in the rebuilt OD.  With the car in =
4th it shows about 500 psi on a gauge=20
            However, I noticed when reattaching the drive shaft that =
with the trans in neutral the output won't rotate in the reverse =
direction.  It rotates easily by hand in the forward direction.  This is =
true before and after the pressure has been released.  Before getting =
pressure in the OD it rotated by hand in both directions.  I haven't =
tried to engage the OD.   It's a hard mechanical stop.  I'm afraid the =
one-directional clutch be engaged and I don't want to break anything.

            I've been a long time gone from this fine place.  Life's =
taken a lot of twists and turns, but it's good to be getting back to =
having to come here for help.

            Thanks and Cheers
            Mike Tobin
            Townsend, Montana=20

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<DIV>operate the lever on the right side of the overdrive and you will =
release=20
the pressure in the system</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: =
#000000">David=20
Nock<BR>British Car=20
Specialists<BR>209-948-8767<BR>www.britishcarspecialists.com</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dahbt71@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:ahbt71@gmail.com";>Mike Tobin</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:18 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Daustin.healey@gmail.com=20
href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com";>Chris Dimmock</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] OD Problem?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Hit the OD with a hammer once and the problem went away.=20
<DIV>Ran up the pressure again and the problem was back.&nbsp; This time =
it took=20
a number of pretty good whacks to get it unstuck.</DIV>
<DIV>Pressurized it a third time and now it won't unstick after a lot of =
good=20
whacks.&nbsp; I'm reluctant to hit it any harder.</DIV>
<DIV>Unless there are any other ideas, I guess the damn thing comes out =
and=20
apart again.</DIV>
<DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
<DIV>Mike</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:01 AM Chris =
Dimmock=20
&lt;<A =
href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com";>austin.healey@gmail.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
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rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
  <DIV>
  <DIV>Nah. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Just tap the =
steel ring=20
  in the overdrive with your knock off hammer to release the springs. =
</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Works every =
time. For=20
  me anyway. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>The springs =
release the=20
  overdrive, and sometimes, they get just get stuck. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>It's a =
mystery of the=20
  world. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>But a few =
taps on that=20
  steel plate seems to realign the planets. And release those pesky=20
  springs!</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Allegedly. =
</DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Worked for =
me. 3 times=20
  in the past 35 years. Mostly when I'd driven the car hard. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>But it seems =
to fix the=20
  issue, when you can't select reverse. </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>And it's so =
much easier=20
  on the bench, than on your back, lying under the car! </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Best </DIV>
  <DIV id=3Dgmail-m_-3178964089480278003AppleMailSignature>Chris. =
<BR><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On 20 Aug 2019, at 10:20 pm, Michael Salter &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"=20
  target=3D_blank>michaelsalter@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>
    <DIV>Hi Mike,=20
    <DIV>I recently experienced exactly the same problem with newly =
rebuilt a=20
    BT7 side shift gearbox and overdrive unit when turning it backwards =
before=20
    adding oil.</DIV>
    <DIV>Like you I suspected the Sprague clutch but after considerable=20
    investigation the cause turned out to be the new 2nd gear syncro =
ring which,=20
    when the box was turned backwards, was winding itself tightly onto =
the cone=20
    of 2nd gear. </DIV>
    <DIV>This is something I've never experienced before but concluded =
that it=20
    was unlikely to present a problem after the box has be run with new=20
    oil.</DIV>
    <DIV>This may not be the cause in your case but certainly it is =
something=20
    worth considering. </DIV>
    <DIV>M</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_attr dir=3Dltr>On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 10:54 PM =
Mike Tobin,=20
    &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:ahbt71@gmail.com"; rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
    target=3D_blank>ahbt71@gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dgmail_quote=20
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          colSpan=3D2><SPAN=20
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arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello=20
            Again,</SPAN>=20
            <DIV=20
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arial,helvetica,sans-serif">&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV=20
            style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: =
arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Finally=20
            got oil pressure in the rebuilt OD.&nbsp; With the car in =
4th it=20
            shows about 500 psi on a gauge=20
            <DIV>However, I noticed when reattaching the drive shaft =
that with=20
            the trans in neutral the output won't rotate in the reverse=20
            direction.&nbsp; It rotates easily by hand in the forward=20
            direction.&nbsp; This is true before and after the pressure =
has been=20
            released.&nbsp; Before getting pressure in the OD it rotated =
by hand=20
            in both directions.&nbsp; I haven't tried to engage the=20
            OD.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's a hard mechanical stop.&nbsp; I'm =
afraid the=20
            one-directional clutch be engaged and I don't want to break=20
            anything.</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>I've been a long time gone from this fine place.&nbsp; =
Life's=20
            taken a lot of twists and turns, but it's good to be getting =
back to=20
            having to come here for help.</DIV>
            <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
            <DIV>Thanks and Cheers</DIV>
            <DIV>Mike Tobin</DIV>
            <DIV>Townsend,=20
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