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Re: [Healeys] Rear wheel cylinders on a BJ8

To: Stephen Hutchings <s.hutchings@rogers.com>, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear wheel cylinders on a BJ8
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 19:04:35 +0200
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As in many cars of the period and even later. Same on my 1974 
Jensen-Healey. I fitted even smaller cylinders at the rear and increased 
braking force by at least 25% by fitting 4-piston callipers and grooved 
discs.

Kees Oudesluijs



Op 27-8-2019 om 18:36 schreef Stephen Hutchings:
> Interesting topic.
> I just had my rear drums turned, and I was surprised at how little 
> wear there was on the shoes.
> I guess the engineers at BMC put in the smaller cylinders as a kind of 
> default brake bias control.
>
> Stephen, BJ8
>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com 
>>
>> Have to agree with Kees on this one.
>> We have a brake bias control on AHX12 and I can certainly attest to 
>> the fact that when the conditions change to "wet" removing a lot of 
>> rear braking is absolutely essential to prevent the car from swapping 
>> ends.
>> As most road cars don't have adjustable brake bias I would be very 
>> careful in trying to increase the rear braking.
>> When braking into a corner the last thing you want is the rear end 
>> coming around, particularly in the wet.
>>
>> M
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:09 PM Kees Oudesluijs 
>>
>>     Whatch out driving in the rain as the rear brakes will lock the rear
>>     wheels much quicker than with the smaller pistons.Rear brakes are
>>     only
>>     providing a small portion of the total brake force.
>>
>>     Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>     Op 27-8-2019 om 18:04 schreef Chris Dimmock:
>>     > Hi Men
>>     > Has anyone else ever changed their rear wheel cylinders from
>>     3/4 inch to 7/8 inch?
>>     > I just did. Sick of the rear brakes doing nothing. Freeloaders!!
>>     > Yes, no problem with seized wheel cylinders, no problem with
>>     the flexible hose - just bugger all wear on the rear linings.
>>     > I'll let you know how it goes on my BJ8
>>     > Best
>>     > Chris
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    <p>As in many cars of the period and even later. Same on my 1974
      Jensen-Healey. I fitted even smaller cylinders at the rear and
      increased braking force by at least 25% by fitting 4-piston
      callipers and grooved discs.</p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 27-8-2019 om 18:36 schreef Stephen
      Hutchings:<br>
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      <div class="">Interesting topic.</div>
      <div class="">I just had my rear drums turned, and I was surprised
        at how little wear there was on the shoes.</div>
      <div class="">I guess the engineers at BMC put in the smaller
        cylinders as a kind of default brake bias control.</div>
      <div class=""><br class="">
      </div>
      <div class="">Stephen, BJ8<br class="">
        <div><br class="">
          <blockquote type="cite" class="">
            <div class="">On Aug 27, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Michael Salter
              &lt;<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; class=""
                moz-do-not-send="true">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:
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                  small;">Have to agree with Kees on this one.<span
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                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:
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                  small;">We have a brake bias control on AHX12 and I
                  can certainly attest to the fact that when the
                  conditions change to "wet" removing a lot of rear
                  braking is absolutely essential to prevent the car
                  from swapping ends.<span 
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                    class="">
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:
                  &quot;comic sans ms&quot;, sans-serif; font-size:
                  small;">As most road cars don't have adjustable brake
                  bias I would be very careful in trying to increase the
                  rear braking.</div>
                <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:
                  &quot;comic sans ms&quot;, sans-serif; font-size:
                  small;">When braking into a corner the last thing you
                  want is the rear end coming around, particularly in
                  the wet.</div>
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                  &quot;comic sans ms&quot;, sans-serif; font-size:
                  small;"><br class="">
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Aug 27, 2019
                  at 12:09 PM Kees Oudesluijs &lt;<a
                    href="mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">coudesluijs@chello.nl</a>&gt;
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                  padding-left: 1ex;">Whatch out driving in the rain as
                  the rear brakes will lock the rear<span
                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
                  wheels much quicker than with the smaller pistons.Rear
                  brakes are only<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                    class="">
                  providing a small portion of the total brake force.<br
                    class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Kees Oudesluijs<br class="">
                  <br class="">
                  Op 27-8-2019 om 18:04 schreef Chris Dimmock:<br
                    class="">
                  &gt; Hi Men<br class="">
                  &gt; Has anyone else ever changed their rear wheel
                  cylinders from 3/4 inch to 7/8 inch?<br class="">
                  &gt; I just did. Sick of the rear brakes doing
                  nothing. Freeloaders!!<br class="">
                  &gt; Yes, no problem with seized wheel cylinders, no
                  problem with the flexible hose - just bugger all wear
                  on the rear linings.<br class="">
                  &gt; I'll let you know how it goes on my BJ8<br
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                  &gt; Best<br class="">
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