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Correct Perry but at one time there was a combination of hubs, splines and
nuts which really didn't work so, when the nut was fully tightened and
bottomed out on the thread the wheel wasn't clamped between the inner taper
and the taper inside the nut .... a tad frustrating....
M
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM Perry via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> Michael et al,
>
> Contemplate the mechanical connections between the hub extension, wire
> wheel hub and the knockoff.
>
> The hub extension is bolted to the axle using tapered nuts that seat in
> the face of the extension. No rotational movement.
>
> The wire wheel is connected to the hub extension via the splines. The
> tolerances in the splines may allow for some rotational movement but they
> have to be loose enough to get the wheel off the extension.
>
> What else holds the wheel in place=E2=80=A6the knockoff. The cone in the =
knock off
> forces the wire wheel hub against the hub extension, The contact interfac=
e
> is the tapers on the hub extension and the wire wheel hub. You know the
> little area that we are frequently reminded to apply a smear of grease to
> stop the little squeaky noise at low speed. If the knock off is tight
> enough there is not movement here either.
>
> So Mike, if you see movement between the knock off and the wire wheel, th=
e
> knock off is not tight enough.
>
> Suspect that the folks that developed knock offs understood the problem o=
f
> owners/mechanics not getting them tight enough and used the handed (left
> and right) threads that self tighten.
>
> Gentlemen, remember your Mother today!
>
> Perry
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 AM
> *To: *Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *[Healeys] The Saturday Night Rant - Part III
>
>
>
> At my age (approaching this side of 70) I am on lock down at my house. I
> even have my groceries delivered. I will only go out to eat at a drive
> through with an N95 mask on. My Boston Terrier that goes with me does no=
t
> wear one. He refuses, but he is only three years old. So, being
> sequestered to my domicile I have taken up the restoration of my BN2 with=
a
> vengeance. I did not know I knew so many off color phrases. Everything =
to
> be done on this car is difficult due to parts incompatibility, parts fit,
> parts unavailability or just my general ignorance and/or incompetence.
> This evening I finished mounting the right side front hub with all new
> parts. I thought I had done a nice job. No lateral play in the hub.
> Turns easily without binding. The correct amount of shims after much tri=
al
> and error. Disc brake conversion was mounted and braided stainless steel
> flex brake lines hooked up at both ends. I have yet to run the brake
> lines. Maybe next. This rant is about the brand new Dayton wire wheels=
.
> I mounted the wire wheels which have temporary used tires on them so I ca=
n
> move the car when it is down off the dollies. After mounting the wheel I
> gave the two eared knockoff several pretty good whacks. Now the moment o=
f
> truth. I grabbed the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock position and pulled straig=
ht
> back and forth. Yay! No play, but when I rocked the wheel it moved
> slightly. I thought it was the hub, but looking closely you can see the
> wire wheel hub rocking back and forth in the knockoff! What!?! How hard
> are you supposed to hit those knockoffs?
>
> Mike MacLean
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">Correct Perry but at one time there was a=
combination of hubs, splines and nuts which really didn't work so, whe=
n the nut was fully tightened and bottomed out on the thread the wheel wasn=
't clamped between the inner taper and the taper inside the nut .... a =
tad frustrating....</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:=
comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM Perry via Healeys <<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail-m_-5983358442887890715WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mi=
chael et al,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Contemplate the mechanical connectio=
ns between the hub extension, wire wheel hub and the knockoff. </p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">The hub extension is bolted to the axle using tapered nuts t=
hat seat in the face of the extension. No rotational movement.</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">The wire wheel is connected to the hub extension via the spl=
ines. The tolerances in the splines may allow for some rotational movement =
but they have to be loose enough to get the wheel off the extension. </p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal">What else holds the wheel in place=E2=80=A6the knockof=
f. The cone in the knock off forces the wire wheel hub against the hub exte=
nsion, The contact interface is the tapers on the hub extension and the wir=
e wheel hub. You know the little area that we are frequently reminded to ap=
ply a smear of grease to stop the little squeaky noise at low speed. If the=
knock off is tight enough there is not movement here either.</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">So Mike, if you see movement between the knock off and the w=
ire wheel, the knock off is not tight enough.=C2=A0 </p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">Suspect that the folks that developed knock offs understood the problem=
of owners/mechanics not getting them tight enough and used the handed (lef=
t and right) threads that self tighten. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gentleme=
n, remember your Mother today!</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Perry</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; target=3D"_blank"=
>Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
<div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;borde=
r-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:medium none;padding:0in"><b>From: <=
/b><a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_blank">Michael Mac=
Lean</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 AM<br><b>To: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">Healeys</a><br><b>Sub=
ject: </b>[Healeys] The Saturday Night Rant - Part III</p></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">At m=
y age (approaching this side of 70) I am on lock down at my house.=C2=A0 I =
even have my groceries delivered.=C2=A0 I will only go out to eat at a driv=
e through with an N95 mask on.=C2=A0 My Boston Terrier that goes with me do=
es not wear one.=C2=A0 He refuses, but he is only three years old.=C2=A0 So=
, being sequestered to my domicile I have taken up the restoration of my BN=
2 with a vengeance.=C2=A0 I did not know I knew so many off color phrases.=
=C2=A0 Everything to be done on this car is difficult due to parts incompat=
ibility, parts fit, parts unavailability or just=C2=A0 my general ignorance=
and/or incompetence.=C2=A0 This evening I finished mounting the right side=
front hub with all new parts.=C2=A0 I thought I had done a nice job.=C2=A0=
No lateral play in the hub.=C2=A0 Turns easily without binding.=C2=A0 The =
correct amount of shims after much trial and error.=C2=A0 Disc brake conver=
sion was mounted and braided stainless steel flex brake lines hooked up at =
both ends.=C2=A0 I have yet to run the brake lines.=C2=A0 Maybe next.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0 This rant is about the brand new Dayton wire wheels.=C2=A0 I mounted=
the wire wheels which have temporary used tires on them so I can move the =
car when it is down off the dollies.=C2=A0 After mounting the wheel I gave =
the two eared knockoff several pretty good whacks.=C2=A0 Now the moment of =
truth.=C2=A0 I grabbed the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock position and pulled=
straight back and forth.=C2=A0 Yay! No play, but when I rocked the wheel i=
t moved slightly.=C2=A0 I thought it was the hub, but looking closely you c=
an see the wire wheel hub rocking back and forth in the knockoff!=C2=A0 Wha=
t!?!=C2=A0 How hard are you supposed to hit those knockoffs?<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></div>_______=
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