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To: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Demister Hose Restoration
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 22:20:22 -0500
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Hi Alan, are you sure that your Atlantic demist tubes are constructed on a
"twine" form. The material used on the 100s is thin steel wire.
Roger used twine to press the paper down between the turns of wire to
produce the corregated shape.

M

On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 9:59 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <healey.nut@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Oh that=E2=80=99s great!  so the Elmers will still work even if a little =
WD40
> leaks to the paper?  I will try this.  My hose still has the original
> wrapping twine on it so all I really need is a pipe to clamp it to then I
> will put repair sections on it, the. wrap the twine to hold it in place.
>  the twine they used original is very thin yet very strong.
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I helped Roger Moment make the ones for my car many years ago, and
>> here's the process...
>>
>> Roger machined a billet aluminum cylinder the correct diameter and then
>> had the correct spiral machined into the surface.  The depth of the
>> machined spiral was half the diameter of the wire.
>>
>> He then would the proper gauge wire into the groves of the cylinder and
>> secured the ends.
>>
>> Then he found a thin light brown paper and cut it to size, and then
>> soaked it in a solution of warm water and "Elmers" glue.
>>
>> Before wrapping the paper around the cylinder he sprayed it with a
>> coating of WD-40.
>>
>> After wrapping the paper onto the cylinder, he then wound a soft braided
>> nylon cord in between the spirals of the wire to hold the form.
>>
>> Then hang it up to dry.
>>
>> Once dry, the tube can be screwed off of the cylinder.  The WD-40 aids i=
n
>> this process.
>>
>> Done and perfect!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 5:16 AM Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alan,
>>> Roger Moment figured out a way to make those and may be able to help.
>>> Before I  found that he could supply them I considered wrapping paper
>>> tape( the kind used for sealing boxes) around a pipe with the adhesive =
out.
>>> Then wind the wire tightly.
>>> Then apply an outer layer of the same tape, adhesive in, wound in the
>>> opposite direction.
>>> I've never tried it but intend to do so next time I  need some.
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>> On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 7:11 a.m. Kent McLean, <kentmclean@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alan Seigrist wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a good method for bonding the paper on the demister
>>>> hoses?  I?m assuming I can just use brown paper from a shopping bag bu=
t
>>>> would like some advise as to what sort of wet adhesive to use.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You could try rubber cement, which should be flexible but would be a
>>>> bear to align as you roll the paper; once rubber cement touches itself=
,
>>>> it'll stick. As for paper, I have some brown painter's paper in a long=
 roll
>>>> from the local home center. It is meant to take the paint and not blee=
d
>>>> through. That might be useful with glue. I'd do a test run of the mate=
rials
>>>> before applying it to the real thing.
>>>>
>>>> Kent McLean
>>>> 1956 100 BN2
>>>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Alan, are you sure that your Atlantic demist tubes are=
 constructed on a &quot;twine&quot; form. The material used on the 100s is =
thin steel wire.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Roger used twine to press the paper=
 down between the turns of wire to produce the corregated shape.</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 9:59=
 p.m. Alan Seigrist, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healey.nut@gmail.com";>healey.nut=
@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto">Oh that=E2=80=99s great! =C2=A0so the Elmers will still work even=
 if a little WD40 leaks to the paper?=C2=A0 I will try this.=C2=A0 My hose =
still has the original wrapping twine on it so all I really need is a pipe =
to clamp it to then I will put repair sections on it, the. wrap the twine t=
o hold it in place. =C2=A0the twine they used original is very thin yet ver=
y strong.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefer=
rer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Listers,</div><div><br></div>I helped=C2=A0Ro=
ger Moment make the ones for my car many years ago, and here&#39;s=C2=A0the=
 process...<div><br></div><div>Roger machined a billet aluminum cylinder th=
e correct diameter and then had the correct spiral machined into the surfac=
e.=C2=A0 The depth of the machined spiral=C2=A0was half the diameter=C2=A0o=
f the wire.</div><div><br></div><div>He then would the proper gauge=C2=A0wi=
re into the groves of the cylinder and secured the ends.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Then he found a thin light brown paper and cut it to size, and then =
soaked it in a solution=C2=A0of warm water and &quot;Elmers&quot; glue.</di=
v><div><br></div><div>Before wrapping=C2=A0the paper around the cylinder he=
 sprayed it with a coating of WD-40.</div><div><br></div><div>After wrappin=
g the paper onto the cylinder, he then wound a soft braided nylon cord in b=
etween the=C2=A0spirals of the wire to hold the form.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Then hang it up to dry.</div><div><br></div><div>Once dry, the tube can=
 be screwed off of the cylinder.=C2=A0 The WD-40 aids in this process.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Done and perfect!=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 5:16 AM Michae=
l Salter via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Alan,<div dir=3D"auto=
">Roger Moment figured out a way to make those and may be able to help.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Before I=C2=A0 found that he could supply them I consid=
ered wrapping paper tape( the kind used for sealing boxes) around a pipe wi=
th the adhesive out.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then wind the wire tightl=
y.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then apply an outer layer of the same tape, adhes=
ive in, wound in the opposite direction.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">I&#39=
;ve never tried it but intend to do so next time I=C2=A0 need some.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 7=
:11 a.m. Kent McLean, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kentmclean@comcast.net"; target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">kentmclean@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Alan Seigrist wro=
te:<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-R=
oman">Does anyone have a good method for bonding the paper on the demister<=
/span><br><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:norm=
al;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">hoses?=
=C2=A0 I?m assuming I can just use brown paper from a shopping bag but</spa=
n><br style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;=
font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-alig=
n:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-s=
ize:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;lett=
er-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inl=
ine">would like some advise as to what sort of wet adhesive to use.</span><=
/div></blockquote><br></div><div>You could try rubber cement, which should =
be flexible but would be a bear to align as you roll the paper; once rubber=
 cement touches itself, it&#39;ll stick. As for paper, I have some brown pa=
inter&#39;s paper in a long roll from the local home center. It is meant to=
 take the paint and not bleed through. That might be useful with glue. I&#3=
9;d do a test run of the materials before applying it to the real thing.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Kent McLean</div><div>1956 100 BN2</div><div><br></d=
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