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Hi Michael -
Yes, the form is wire. If you look at my picture you can see the brown
twine they used to push the paper down onto the wire to form the hose.
that's the twine I was talking about. It's very strong twine so I think I
can just reuse it rather than using thread or something like that.
Cheers,
Alan
On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 11:20 AM Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Alan, are you sure that your Atlantic demist tubes are constructed on =
a
> "twine" form. The material used on the 100s is thin steel wire.
> Roger used twine to press the paper down between the turns of wire to
> produce the corregated shape.
>
> M
>
> On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 9:59 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <healey.nut@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh that=E2=80=99s great! so the Elmers will still work even if a little=
WD40
>> leaks to the paper? I will try this. My hose still has the original
>> wrapping twine on it so all I really need is a pipe to clamp it to then =
I
>> will put repair sections on it, the. wrap the twine to hold it in place.
>> the twine they used original is very thin yet very strong.
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Listers,
>>>
>>> I helped Roger Moment make the ones for my car many years ago, and
>>> here's the process...
>>>
>>> Roger machined a billet aluminum cylinder the correct diameter and then
>>> had the correct spiral machined into the surface. The depth of the
>>> machined spiral was half the diameter of the wire.
>>>
>>> He then would the proper gauge wire into the groves of the cylinder and
>>> secured the ends.
>>>
>>> Then he found a thin light brown paper and cut it to size, and then
>>> soaked it in a solution of warm water and "Elmers" glue.
>>>
>>> Before wrapping the paper around the cylinder he sprayed it with a
>>> coating of WD-40.
>>>
>>> After wrapping the paper onto the cylinder, he then wound a soft braide=
d
>>> nylon cord in between the spirals of the wire to hold the form.
>>>
>>> Then hang it up to dry.
>>>
>>> Once dry, the tube can be screwed off of the cylinder. The WD-40 aids
>>> in this process.
>>>
>>> Done and perfect!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 5:16 AM Michael Salter via Healeys <
>>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>> Roger Moment figured out a way to make those and may be able to help.
>>>> Before I found that he could supply them I considered wrapping paper
>>>> tape( the kind used for sealing boxes) around a pipe with the adhesive=
out.
>>>> Then wind the wire tightly.
>>>> Then apply an outer layer of the same tape, adhesive in, wound in the
>>>> opposite direction.
>>>> I've never tried it but intend to do so next time I need some.
>>>>
>>>> M
>>>>
>>>> On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 7:11 a.m. Kent McLean, <kentmclean@comcast.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alan Seigrist wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have a good method for bonding the paper on the demister
>>>>> hoses? I?m assuming I can just use brown paper from a shopping bag b=
ut
>>>>> would like some advise as to what sort of wet adhesive to use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You could try rubber cement, which should be flexible but would be a
>>>>> bear to align as you roll the paper; once rubber cement touches itsel=
f,
>>>>> it'll stick. As for paper, I have some brown painter's paper in a lon=
g roll
>>>>> from the local home center. It is meant to take the paint and not ble=
ed
>>>>> through. That might be useful with glue. I'd do a test run of the mat=
erials
>>>>> before applying it to the real thing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kent McLean
>>>>> 1956 100 BN2
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Michael -<div><br></div><div>Yes, the form is wire.=C2=
=A0 If you look at my picture you can see the brown twine they used to push=
the paper down onto the wire to form the hose.=C2=A0 that's the twine =
I was talking=C2=A0about.=C2=A0 It's very strong twine so I think I can=
just reuse it rather than using=C2=A0thread or something like that.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 9=
, 2020 at 11:20 AM Michael Salter <<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail=
.com">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Alan, are you sure that y=
our Atlantic demist tubes are constructed on a "twine" form. The =
material used on the 100s is thin steel wire.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Roger =
used twine to press the paper down between the turns of wire to produce the=
corregated shape.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Sun., Nov. 8, 2020, 9:59 p.m. Alan Seigrist, <<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
ley.nut@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">healey.nut@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">=
Oh that=E2=80=99s great! =C2=A0so the Elmers will still work even if a litt=
le WD40 leaks to the paper?=C2=A0 I will try this.=C2=A0 My hose still has =
the original wrapping twine on it so all I really need is a pipe to clamp i=
t to then I will put repair sections on it, the. wrap the twine to hold it =
in place. =C2=A0the twine they used original is very thin yet very strong.<=
/div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 at 8:39 AM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys <<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys=
@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Listers,</div><div><br></div>I helped=
=C2=A0Roger Moment make the ones for my car many years ago, and here's=
=C2=A0the process...<div><br></div><div>Roger machined a billet aluminum cy=
linder the correct diameter and then had the correct spiral machined into t=
he surface.=C2=A0 The depth of the machined spiral=C2=A0was half the diamet=
er=C2=A0of the wire.</div><div><br></div><div>He then would the proper gaug=
e=C2=A0wire into the groves of the cylinder and secured the ends.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Then he found a thin light brown paper and cut it to size, =
and then soaked it in a solution=C2=A0of warm water and "Elmers" =
glue.</div><div><br></div><div>Before wrapping=C2=A0the paper around the cy=
linder he sprayed it with a coating of WD-40.</div><div><br></div><div>Afte=
r wrapping the paper onto the cylinder, he then wound a soft braided nylon =
cord in between the=C2=A0spirals of the wire to hold the form.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Then hang it up to dry.</div><div><br></div><div>Once dry, the=
tube can be screwed off of the cylinder.=C2=A0 The WD-40 aids in this proc=
ess.</div><div><br></div><div>Done and perfect!=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><=
div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 5:16 =
AM Michael Salter via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:=
<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote=
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Alan,<div dir=
=3D"auto">Roger Moment figured out a way to make those and may be able to h=
elp.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Before I=C2=A0 found that he could supply them =
I considered wrapping paper tape( the kind used for sealing boxes) around a=
pipe with the adhesive out.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then wind the wir=
e tightly.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then apply an outer layer of the same tap=
e, adhesive in, wound in the opposite direction.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">I've never tried it but intend to do so next time I=C2=A0 need some.=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Nov. 8,=
2020, 7:11 a.m. Kent McLean, <<a href=3D"mailto:kentmclean@comcast.net"=
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">kentmclean@comcast.net</a>> wrote:=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Alan Seigr=
ist wrote:<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"font-family:Pal=
atino-Roman">Does anyone have a good method for bonding the paper on the de=
mister</span><br><div><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:1=
8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-sp=
acing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-spa=
ce:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">=
hoses?=C2=A0 I?m assuming I can just use brown paper from a shopping bag bu=
t</span><br style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:n=
ormal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-family:Palatino-Roman;=
font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:norma=
l;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:non=
e;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;displ=
ay:inline">would like some advise as to what sort of wet adhesive to use.</=
span></div></blockquote><br></div><div>You could try rubber cement, which s=
hould be flexible but would be a bear to align as you roll the paper; once =
rubber cement touches itself, it'll stick. As for paper, I have some br=
own painter's paper in a long roll from the local home center. It is me=
ant to take the paint and not bleed through. That might be useful with glue=
. I'd do a test run of the materials before applying it to the real thi=
ng.</div><div><br></div><div>Kent McLean</div><div>1956 100 BN2</div><div><=
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