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To: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps
From: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 22:33:32 -0500
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Yes--Bill Bolton. I don't know what was the essence of his pump rebuilds
but his rebuilds provided a solution.

Best--Michael Oritt

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 9:41 PM Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You want Kent Lambert in Oregon.(541) 490-5674 cell, (541) 386-2310
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:17 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I can't now recall the person's name but in addition to selling rebuilt
>> pumps (on a core basis) with better seals he also sold hardtop parts
>> (windlacing, etc).  He was located in the NW--Washington or Oregon.
>> Does anyone know his name--Bob or Bill ring a bell.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 8:09 PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob & Steven,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input.  It looks like  Moss and Brit Part Northwest are
>>> both selling the same Bastuck water pump.  Even with its issues, I gues=
s
>>> I=E2=80=99ll be buying it.  Anything is better than County.
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Mayor
>>> boyracer466@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jan 7, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn't much choice
>>> for 100 pumps from the 'usual suspects;' it's either County or 'uprated=
.'
>>> 'Uprated' is a brand called 'Bastuck;' I believe they're a German compa=
ny.
>>> They do appear to have a somewhat better-designed impeller and compared=
 to
>>> County they turn smoother (you probably know I'm not a big fan of Count=
y).
>>> Though otherwise a decent pump, the Bastucks have two issues:
>>> >
>>> > 1) The thread for the heater return line--it's probably metric--will
>>> not fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you're stuck using the barbed nippl=
e
>>> that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I've tried to keep my 100=
M
>>> original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass valve =
I
>>> can't use.
>>> >
>>> > 2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the
>>> threads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried =
the
>>> usual teflon tape, red threadlocker, 'normal' pipe sealant and JB Weld =
and
>>> none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads are real=
ly
>>> rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I might hav=
e
>>> damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to heat the c=
ast
>>> iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the bearings felt a bi=
t
>>> rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung for a new Bastuck pum=
p;
>>> the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new product from Permatex (N=
FI):
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-marine/auto-t=
ools-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108&gclid=3DCj0=
KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMOG3lBFpIIcC08b=
MaAv21EALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds
>>> >
>>> > This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re:
>>> cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.
>>> >
>>> > I've seen 'OEM/rebuilt' on eBay but can't vouch for them (they
>>> apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he trusts=
 who
>>> rebuilds them, but the guy's backlogged and Tom hasn't remembered to le=
t me
>>> know when he gets some done (I've already pestered him a couple times).=
 Any
>>> rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and last I checked the
>>> Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they took them off t=
he
>>> shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug).
>>> >
>>> > Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I
>>> received has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears=
 to
>>> be epoxied in.
>>> >
>>> > Bob
>>> >
>>> > On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
>>> >> Anyone have any experience with the "uprated" BN1-BN2 water pumps
>>> being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a brand
>>> name......and it's not County.
>>> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Yes--=
Bill Bolton. I don&#39;t know what was the essence of his pump rebuilds but=
 his rebuilds provided a solution.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3=
333ff">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 9:41 PM Michael MacL=
ean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:springer.mike51@gmail.com";>springer.mike51@gmail.=
com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1e=
x"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You want Kent Lambert in Oregon.(541) 490-5674 cel=
l, (541) 386-2310</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:=
17 PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">I can&#39;t now recall the person&#39;=
s name but in addition to selling rebuilt pumps (on a core basis) with bett=
er seals he also sold hardtop parts (windlacing, etc).=C2=A0 He was located=
 in the NW--Washington or Oregon.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Does anyone know his name--Bob or Bill ring a bel=
l.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michae=
l Oritt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 8:09 PM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Bob &a=
mp; Steven,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the input.=C2=A0 It looks like=C2=A0 Moss and Brit Part Northwes=
t are both selling the same Bastuck water pump.=C2=A0 Even with its issues,=
 I guess I=E2=80=99ll be buying it.=C2=A0 Anything is better than County. <=
br>
<br>
<br>
Richard Mayor<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmai=
l.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 7, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn&#39;t much choic=
e for 100 pumps from the &#39;usual suspects;&#39; it&#39;s either County o=
r &#39;uprated.&#39; &#39;Uprated&#39; is a brand called &#39;Bastuck;&#39;=
 I believe they&#39;re a German company. They do appear to have a somewhat =
better-designed impeller and compared to County they turn smoother (you pro=
bably know I&#39;m not a big fan of County). Though otherwise a decent pump=
, the Bastucks have two issues:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1) The thread for the heater return line--it&#39;s probably metric--wi=
ll not fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you&#39;re stuck using the barbed ni=
pple that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I&#39;ve tried to keep m=
y 100M original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass val=
ve I can&#39;t use.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the th=
reads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried the us=
ual teflon tape, red threadlocker, &#39;normal&#39; pipe sealant and JB Wel=
d and none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads are re=
ally rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I might ha=
ve damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to heat the ca=
st iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the bearings felt a bit=
 rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung for a new Bastuck pump; =
the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new product from Permatex (NFI):=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-m=
arine/auto-tools-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108=
&amp;gclid=3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PE=
mMOG3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=3Daw.ds" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-mari=
ne/auto-tools-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108&am=
p;gclid=3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMO=
G3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=3Daw.ds</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re: =
cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;ve seen &#39;OEM/rebuilt&#39; on eBay but can&#39;t vouch for th=
em (they apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he t=
rusts who rebuilds them, but the guy&#39;s backlogged and Tom hasn&#39;t re=
membered to let me know when he gets some done (I&#39;ve already pestered h=
im a couple times). Any rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and =
last I checked the Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they =
took them off the shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug=
).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I rece=
ived has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears to be e=
poxied in.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Bob<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Anyone have any experience with the &quot;uprated&quot; BN1-BN2 wa=
ter pumps being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a bra=
nd name......and it&#39;s not County.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
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