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Re: Rear steering

To: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Rear steering
From: john robinson <john@engr.wisc.edu>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:28:06 -0500
Howdy, OK I'm still curious, what class did you run in? what were the 
driving problems that you had? why do you think the 0 caster helped? what 
would you have done differently (other than the obvious and not do it ) 
what speeds did you get? thanks,


At 11:10 AM 5/25/00 , you wrote:
>John
>
>Tried that too. Had the steering so slow it took 300 yards to make a circle.
>It helped, but no cure. Also tried everything from 20 deg to 0 deg of
>caster. worked better near 0.
>This is on a front wheel drive, 140" WB, 50" tread width, vehicle with
>driver toward the rear. Had fun, but in that application, not worth the
>fabrication time and effort.
>
>John Beckett, LSR #79
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "john robinson" <john@engr.wisc.edu>
>To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer@earthlink.net>
>Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:06 AM
>Subject: Re: Rear steering
>
>
> > Howdy,
> >           another thought of the overcorrection problem, perhaps a
>reversed
> > steering quickener, one that slows down the input to the steering...? ....
> >          also, how many of the other vehicles were front wheel drive? any
> > guess as to front rear weight bias? where was the driver in the vehicle?
> > were the vehicles long and skinny, or short and fat?
> >
> >
> > At 09:58 PM 5/24/00 , you wrote:
> > >As I recall over the years there were three attempts at rear wheel
> > >steering not counting the Nobel jet car. I also seem to remember none
> > >getting to the first timing light even with the restrictions of 100 mph
> > >max to see if they could keep it between the black lines. The answer is
> > >Nope. In almost any warehouse most fork lifts are required to travel
> > >backwards for the safety of what seems to be the more natural way of
> > >getting the vehicle to go in a straight line. In every case the
> > >correction in  trying to go straight became an over correction to bring
> > >the vehicle back in its intended path only to spin. Gentlemen, it's not
> > >worth the waste of fabrication time to try what ain't going to work.
> > >Just my thoughts of seeing a lot of strange things on the salt. It's a
> > >long wait to the next season.
> > >Glen
> > >
> > >John Beckett wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nope, it's real. Just not legal any more.
> > > >
> > > > John Beckett, LSR #79
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Dick J" <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Daniel Wright" <daniel.wright@genetics.utah.edu>;
> > > > <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 4:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Rear steering
> > > >
> > > > > Am I mistaken, or didn't all of this
> > > > > rear-steering talk start with "tongue in cheek"
> > > > > as a joke?
> > > > > Dick J
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Daniel Wright
> > > > > <daniel.wright@genetics.utah.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > I have been following with interest the
> > > > > > discussion on rear steering.  I
> > > > > > can't see in the rule book where it is
> > > > > > prohibited.  Can someone refer me to
> > > > > > any applicable paragraph?
> > > > > > Dan Wright
> > > > > > Dept. of Human Genetics, University of Utah
> > > > > > dan@saltflats.com
> > > > > > Utah Salt Flats Racing Association
> > > > > > "It's amazing what you can do when you don't
> > > > > > know it can't be done"
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> >
> >
> >               John Robinson, Mechanician
> >    Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
> >                  1513 University Ave.
> >                   Madison, Wi. 53706
> >                      608-262-3606
> >                    FAX 608-265-2316
> > Current World Land Speed Record Holder
> > Bonneville Salt Flats
> >             H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
> >    131.333 MPH set 1995
> >    136.666 MPH set 1996
> >
> >
>
>


              John Robinson, Mechanician
   Mechanical Engineering University of Wisconsin
                 1513 University Ave.
                  Madison, Wi. 53706
                     608-262-3606
                   FAX 608-265-2316
        Current World Land Speed Record Holder
                 Bonneville Salt Flats
            H/GCC 92 cu.in. 1980 Dodge Colt
                   131.333 MPH set 1995
                   136.666 MPH set 1996



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