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Re: [oletrucks] High Speed Rear End for 50 3/4 ton

To: thomasa@halcyon.com, dshier@rmi.net
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] High Speed Rear End for 50 3/4 ton
From: Passnb4U@aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:36:34 EDT
  I believe my Dad has a couple of complete GM 3/4ton rearends, mid-60's to 
early-'70's, I'm sure he'd take $50-$75 bucks for the whole setup.  Infact if 
he'd probably relocate the spring perches, or put yours on for a minimal cost 
to just cover the electricity and gas that the MiG uses.

  Also, he'd let you use his press if you wanted to install new bearing, etc.

  Located in Oakdale, Ca.,......about an hour South  of Sacramento.

  Mike 
(email me direct or reply here)

In a message dated 9/2/99 9:04:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
thomasa@halcyon.com writes:

<< Setting up a ring and pinion is not difficult if you are careful and take
 your time. It requires access to a press, some shims, a tube of machinists
 high-spot blue and a dial-indicator. It can be done without the
 dial-indicator but it's a little more time consumeing without. In any case
 the ultimate test is the proper pattern in the bluing painted on the face
 of the gear teeth. On heavy trucks the pattern is set up to compensate for
 deflection of the gears under load although for cars and half-ton pickups
 it's probably not necessary or desirable to compensate. Any good shop
 manual will have a section on setting up gear patterns. If you have someone
 else do the job I would double check their work before installing. 
 
 Gears that are run for any length of time with improper setup will wear
 improperly and be noisy even after the pattern is corrected. So you really
 only get one chance. When final drives (ring and pinion) get noisy because
 of a worn pinion bearing or worn differential carrier bearings the same
 holds true. They will wear in the new pattern if not corrected quickly and
 will be noisy ever after.
 
 -Tom Allen
 51 3800
 
 At 05:34 PM 9/1/99 -0600, David G Shier wrote:
 >Allen, since I have been considering a 3:55 from Patrick for our 50 1/2
 ton please let me know how the project goes for you.  We are interested in
 how hard the conversion is and how sophisticated a machinist you might have
 to be.
 >
 >Thanks much!
 >Dave Shier
 >www.mtntown.com
 >
 >"Allen L. Jones" wrote:
 >
 >> If you have the original torque tube setup (sorry, missed the first part
 of this tread), third members will not swap.  Then it does indeed involve a
 total swap from hub to perch for the axle you stated.  I'm solving the
 problem by installing a 3.55 ring and pinion from Patrick's (many
 advantages and disadvantages).  However, I'm not sure if this will work on
 a 3/4 ton axle or not.  Patrick can tell you.
 >>
 >> >>> "Charles Culver" <sculver@iwl.net> 09/01/99 05:01AM >>>
 >> Cliff (or anyone out there who can help me),
 >>
 >> You recently responded to my request for info on a higher speed rear end
 for
 >> a 50 3/4 ton, and I plan to find a '72 Chevy van to get a 4.11 third
 member.
 >> Now this may sound really dumb, but tell me, does this involve changing 
out
 >> the entire rear portion, including axles, hubs and everything, or can this
 >> be accomplished by simply changing some gears inside the housing?  I'd
 >> really like to keep my 8 lug wheels if I can, so they'll match the ones on
 >> the front.
 >>
 >> Thanks-
 >>
 >> Smokey
 >> '50 3600 5'window
 >>
 >> -----Original Message-----
 >> From: Laney, Clifton <clifton.laney@intel.com>
 >> To: oletrucks@autox.team.net <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
 >> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 9:58 AM
 >> Subject: RE: [oletrucks] High Speed Rear End for 50 3/4 ton
 >>
 >> >I replaced the rear end 5.54 third member in my '49 3/4 ton with a 4.11
 >> from
 >> >a '72 Chev van.  It just bolted right in.  I looked around but 4.11 was
 the
 >> >best I could do.
 >> >
 >> >-- Cliff
 >> >'49 3/4 ton
 >> >
 >> >-----Original Message-----
 >> >From: Thomas_Wilbur@coconetme.org [mailto:Thomas_Wilbur@coconetme.org]
 >> >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 6:49 AM
 >> >To: oletrucks@autox.team.net
 >> >Subject: [oletrucks] High Speed Rear End for 50 3/4 ton
 >> >
 >> >
 >> >Looking for one that will fit that is 3.5 or 3.75.  I have been told that
 >> >as long as it is a removable third member for a 3/4 or 1 ton, that they
 >> >will swap up to 1970?
 >> >
 >> >tom@wilburs.com
 >> >Thomas P. Wilbur
 >> >Wilbur' of Maine Chocolate Confections
 >> >11 Independence Drive
 >> >Freeport, Maine 04032
 >> >(207) 865-4071
 >> >


 > 
 Tom Allen
 Seattle, WA >>
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