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Re: [oletrucks] Saginaw 3sp with overdrive

To: mark@noakes.com, oletrucks@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Saginaw 3sp with overdrive
From: "Bob KNOTTS" <raknotts@qwest.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:37:00 -0700
I had an O/D similar to the one you're talking abt on my 55 Merc, and also a
63 Rambler 6 S/W. On both, you let up on the gas at a speed of abt 35 to
engage the O/D. You could either slow down to abt 25, where it would
disengage, or mash the footfeed all the way down. (On a Rambler 6 you more
mushed it down!). Then once you were back in direct, you pulled the lockout
lever out to stay in direct. My uncle had a 53 FXXX 6 with the O/D. The 2nd
gear O/D worked great in snow on the Portland West Hills on the ice and
snow. 2nd was too low, high was too high. Bob K in PHX, AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: <mark@noakes.com>
To: <oletrucks@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [oletrucks] Saginaw 3sp with overdrive


> The biggest issue is the one you mention; it doesn't work with closed
driveline and you
> would have to swap (54/55 1st series parts?).
>
> The best part of the deal is that it will convert your 3.90 final drive
ratio to 2.73
> for less stress on the engine at cruise and better mileage.
>
> These are not for high hp, but a stock or near stock engine should be fine
with the OD.
>
> A minor negative if you care about engine braking, is that the vehicle
will nearly free
> wheel with the OD engaged, and  you'll have to downshift more than usual
to deal with
> hills.
>
> A minor plus is, per the orignal literature that I have, is that it's
easier to drive in
> stop and go traffic...can't prove that one by me yet though.
>
> The original controls are a combination of mechanical, electrical, and a
governor, so
> it's pretty convoluted for what it does.  The relays, switches, wiring
harness, etc that
> go with it are hard to come by if you want to do it totally as original.
There are also
> mechanical only (solenoid is jumpered for this one) and more modern
control approaches
> that can also be done.  I collected parts off of an auction site for my
brother to do a
> stock installation on his 57 farm truck with a 235 six.  For my Suburban
setup, I intend
> to use the more modern switching approach whereby I'll get something like
a 6 speed out
> of my 3...I say "something like" since I don't think all gears will be
useful that
> way...but it will be better than a 3 speed at least.
>
> I have collected a pretty extensive file of original literature (and per
orginal
> literature, the OD was available for the TF trucks, though the GMC also
had a high speed
> rear end that would negate  the need for the OD anyway) and magazine
articles on stock
> and modified setups; let me know if you get it.
>
> Mark Noakes
>
> On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Ronald Smiley wrote:
>
> >
> > Group:  There is a saginaw 3spd with over drive listed
> > on one of the auction sites.  They are looking for a
> > opening bid of two hundred for it, less than a hundred
> > thousand miles.  Obviously its not compatible with the
> > torque tube.  I would appreciate any insight into
> > this.  Is this a desirable addition to a 53 3100?
> >
> > Ron
> > 53 3100
> >
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