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To: "John T. Blair" <jblair1948@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Dead battery question
From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2023 17:03:39 -0500
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Some cars have a (possibly hidden?) button to press that allows you to
shift a dead car out of park. Don't know if the Scion has that (our '17
RAV4 does).

EjR

On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 4:37 PM John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> wrote:

>
> Hey gang,
>
> Got a simiple question for your all.  But before I start, I want to thank
> the
> manufacturers of all the new cars and the new fangled crap they put
> on them, NOT!
>
> I own a '06 Scion xB and a '12 Scion xB, but I'm pretty sure this applies
> to
> other brands also.
>
> 1. Only the drivers door can be opened with a key
>
> 2. Can't open the rear hatch/trunk as no key latch.
>
> 3. A solenoid to "Lock" the gearshift in Park
>
> So now you have a dead battery.  Wife and I went out yesterday morning to
> get so donuts to ring in the Ney Year with (an long standing tradition in
> my
> family.  Got the donuts and went to go home.  Put the key in the ignition
> and nothing!  Great a dead battery.
>
> I have a jump box, and it's in the back behind the rear seat.  Can't open
> the
> hatch as it's electrical.  So I lay the back seat down and slide in
> and get the
> jump box.  It's deader than a door nail also.  So it's no help.
>
> Not to mention I can't get the car out of part to be able to push the car
> out
> of the parking space due to the electrical solenoid that needs to be
> retracted
> to allow me to move the gear shift lever.
>
> Called my sons (as they were home for Xmas) and they came to get us with
> jumper cables.  We jump the car and start for home.  Get home and go to
> take the battery out of my '06 and up in the wife's '12 so we can drive her
> car around.
>
> Again I want to thank the manufacture for saving me $1 by making the
> wiring harness fit so perfectly and for changing the way and type of
> battery
> used.  We had to turn the battery around because one of the cars the
> positive post ends up closest to the fender, on the other car the negative
> post is closest to the fender.  There is NOT enough give to move the wiring
> harness the 2" to make the connection to the other battery.
>
> I am thinking of taking a "aux" cigarette plug and connecting a 9V battery
> and to pluging that into the "aux" power outlet it to reverse feed
> the car's electrical system?  I don't have an schmetics of the car's
> electrical system.  I
> was hoping that a 9V battery would have enough power to allow you to
> nlock the doors, and possibly get the car out of park.
>
> Has anyone tried this.  I thought I saw something like this
> advertised some years back.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> John T. Blair  WA4OHZ     email:  jblair1948@cox.net
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Som=
e cars have a (possibly hidden?) button to press that allows you to shift a=
 dead car out of park. Don&#39;t know if the Scion has that (our &#39;17 RA=
V4 does).=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"=
><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_=
attr">On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 4:37 PM John T. Blair &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jb=
lair1948@cox.net">jblair1948@cox.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid=
 rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
Hey gang,<br>
<br>
Got a simiple question for your all.=C2=A0 But before I start, I want to th=
ank the<br>
manufacturers of all the new cars and the new fangled crap they put <br>
on them, NOT!<br>
<br>
I own a &#39;06 Scion xB and a &#39;12 Scion xB, but I&#39;m pretty sure th=
is applies to<br>
other brands also.<br>
<br>
1. Only the drivers door can be opened with a key<br>
<br>
2. Can&#39;t open the rear hatch/trunk as no key latch.<br>
<br>
3. A solenoid to &quot;Lock&quot; the gearshift in Park<br>
<br>
So now you have a dead battery.=C2=A0 Wife and I went out yesterday morning=
 to<br>
get so donuts to ring in the Ney Year with (an long standing tradition in m=
y<br>
family.=C2=A0 Got the donuts and went to go home.=C2=A0 Put the key in the =
ignition<br>
and nothing!=C2=A0 Great a dead battery.<br>
<br>
I have a jump box, and it&#39;s in the back behind the rear seat.=C2=A0 Can=
&#39;t open the<br>
hatch as it&#39;s electrical.=C2=A0 So I lay the back seat down and slide i=
n <br>
and get the<br>
jump box.=C2=A0 It&#39;s deader than a door nail also.=C2=A0 So it&#39;s no=
 help.<br>
<br>
Not to mention I can&#39;t get the car out of part to be able to push the c=
ar out<br>
of the parking space due to the electrical solenoid that needs to be retrac=
ted<br>
to allow me to move the gear shift lever.<br>
<br>
Called my sons (as they were home for Xmas) and they came to get us with<br=
>
jumper cables.=C2=A0 We jump the car and start for home.=C2=A0 Get home and=
 go to<br>
take the battery out of my &#39;06 and up in the wife&#39;s &#39;12 so we c=
an drive her<br>
car around.<br>
<br>
Again I want to thank the manufacture for saving me $1 by making the<br>
wiring harness fit so perfectly and for changing the way and type of batter=
y<br>
used.=C2=A0 We had to turn the battery around because one of the cars the <=
br>
positive post ends up closest to the fender, on the other car the negative<=
br>
post is closest to the fender.=C2=A0 There is NOT enough give to move the w=
iring<br>
harness the 2&quot; to make the connection to the other battery.<br>
<br>
I am thinking of taking a &quot;aux&quot; cigarette plug and connecting a 9=
V battery<br>
and to pluging that into the &quot;aux&quot; power outlet it to reverse fee=
d <br>
the car&#39;s electrical system?=C2=A0 I don&#39;t have an schmetics of the=
 car&#39;s <br>
electrical system.=C2=A0 I<br>
was hoping that a 9V battery would have enough power to allow you to <br>
nlock the doors, and possibly get the car out of park.<br>
<br>
Has anyone tried this.=C2=A0 I thought I saw something like this <br>
advertised some years back.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
John T. Blair=C2=A0 WA4OHZ=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0email:=C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailt=
o:jblair1948@cox.net" target=3D"_blank">jblair1948@cox.net</a><br>
Va. Beach, Va=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
 Phone:=C2=A0 (757) 495-8229<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A048 TR1800=C2=A0 =C2=A0 48 #4 Midge=
t=C2=A0 =C2=A0 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 77 Spitfire=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 71 Saab Sonett III<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 65 Rambler Classic<br>
<br>
Morgan:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://autox.team.net/morgan/"; rel=3D"noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/morgan/</a><br>
Bricklin:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.bricklin.org"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bricklin.org</a><br>
<br>
If you can read this=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0- Thank=
 a teacher!<br>
If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!<br>
<br>
=C2=A0From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 e pluribus Unum, &quot;from many, one.&quot;<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 In God We Trust<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Liberty - the=C2=A0 power=C2=A0 of=C2=A0 choosing,=C2=
=A0 thinking,=C2=A0 and=C2=A0 acting=C2=A0 for<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0onesel=
f; freedom=C2=A0 from=C2=A0 control=C2=A0 or=C2=A0 restriction<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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