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Re: spitfire names (New Topic) V8 LBCs

To: "Gambony, Jim" <jim.gambony@eds.com>
Subject: Re: spitfire names (New Topic) V8 LBCs
From: Reed Mideke <rmideke@interbase.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 12:15:04 -0700
The V8 spits I've found on the web are

http://www.westpro.com/Beast.html
http://www.westpro.com/Beast_Folder/Beast_Friends/v8spitfire.html
http://www.students.missouri.edu/~will/frame.html

The first two are out laughing at $100k sports cars and the other
is under construction.
In all of these, it's pretty much a new car with a spit body.

Personally, I think a 300zx or RX7 rotary might be a better way to GO.
I suspect (but don't know for sure) that you could get about the
same power/weight with one of those. If you still need more umph,
turbos are easy to find.
I've looked at the Z motor, and it doesn't look like too hard a
fit. A bulge or scoop in the hood (bonnet) might be required.
Z motors and rearends are plentiful in junkyards, and aftermarket
performance parts are easy to come by. I assume the same
holds for the RX7.

A friend of mine (who I got my spit from) put the small alum buick
V8 in his TR7. I haven't had a close look at it yet. I don't think
he changed the diff or suspension, but I could be wrong.

Another friend has a '59 Bugeye sprite with a 5.0, and again 
it's pretty much a new car. (he used a Datsun Z rearend and built
a frame). Also converted the original LHD car to RHD to so the 
steering would not have to pass through the intake. This car 
runs 0-60 in the 4s range.

Gambony, Jim wrote:
> 
> Andy,
> 
> Yes, you probably did see my name on the sign up for the VTR convention....
> unfortunately there is a chance that I won't be able to make it because of a
> personal situation here in Dallas.
> 
> To answer your question about the V8 conversion, I never got serious enough
> about the conversion to try figuring out the logistics of making the engine
> fit.  With the "open" bay of the Spitfire I can't imagine it'd be too hard,
> with the possible exception of how to route the exhaust and any height
> problems with the carb/air cleaner assembly.   The same engine was dropped
> into the MGB engine bay without mods (except for radiator mounting), and the
> MGB 4 cylinder isn't significantly larger than the Spitfire 1500.  Anyway, I
> was a young pup fresh out of college in my first real job, and there was
> barely enough cash to think about getting the stock motor going again, much
> less a V8 swap!  And the rear axle issues would have driven me crazy!
> 
> There is a gentleman here in the Dallas area that shoe-horned a Ford 289
> Hi-Po into a 1500 body.  He's running a narrowed Ford rear end, and
> something like 295/50/15 rubber on the back wheels.  From what I remember of
> the car the frame from the seats forward is completely custom, and the
> engine is set back far enough that the back 2 or 4 spark plugs are accessed
> from within the cockpit!  The rear wheel arches look like washing machine
> drums in the trunk.  His comment is that it can be a bit "squirrely".  Texas
> understatement?
> 
> I now have a TR7 5-speed (same trans as from the TR8 :-)... and I'm still
> dreaming of finding a V8 to stuff into something (my Mini Cooper maybe?)
> 
> Jim
> 
> ps.  Grassroots Motorsports is in the process of finishing my other engine
> swap choice... rotary power!  If they'd started with a '67 or earlier car
> they could stop whining about the car not being street legal!
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lindberg, Andrew (MN12) [SMTP:Andrew.Lindberg@CORP.honeywell.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 1998 12:57 PM
> > To:   Gambony, Jim; rstieg@ci.bartlett.tn.us; spitfires@Autox.Team.Net
> > Subject:      RE: spitfire names (New Topic)
> >
> > jim.gambony@eds.com wrote: "When I bought my '73 Spitfire, I seriously
> > considered locating a rover 3500 V8 as a replacement motor. Of course, the
> >
> > conversion never happed."
> >
> > Jim --
> >
> > This has been a dream (fantasy?) of mine for a few years, but I've never
> > been able to find much info on it.  So I have a lot of questions of which
> > the following is just the tip of the iceberg: Does the Rover/Buick fit in
> > the Spit/GT6 engine bay?  Easily or with a lot of pounding/cutting on body
> >
> > panels?  How much heavier/lighter is it than the Spit/GT6 iron engines?
> >  What trannies hook up to it?  How long can the rear differential stand
> > the
> > V8's torque before it explodes?
> >
> > I've never seen a report by anybody that's done the conversion (unlike the
> >
> > reports on the web and elsewhere of people that have dropped a Ford 302 in
> >
> > their TR6), but I'm not quite ready to let the dream die yet.
> >
> > Anybody out there done this?  Seen a car which has had the conversion
> > done?
> >  I'd appreciate any info (or even speculation) on this topic.
> >
> >  -- Minnesota Andy (A GT6 owner who doesn't have the money, or time, or
> > talent, or space to do the conversion right now but would like to start
> > planning for more prosperous times.  And who also knows where he can get a
> >
> > Buick version of this engine for not too much.)
> >
> > p.s. Jim, did I see your name on the sign-up list for the VTR convention
> > up
> > here in the great north woods?

-- 
Reed Mideke                                        rmideke@interbase.com

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