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RE: camber compensator

To: "'Craig Smith'" <CraigS@iewc.com>,
Subject: RE: camber compensator
From: "Bowen, Patrick A" <PABowen@sar.med.navy.mil>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:29:12 -0400
I don't know if stainless steel would be good for this as stainless is no
where near as strong as plain old regular steel.  I don't think it has the
tensile strength.

$.02 worth
Patrick Bowen

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Smith [mailto:CraigS@iewc.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 11:04 AM
To: 'nikolai jaremka'; 'spitfires@autox.team.net'
Subject: RE: camber compensator



I don't have a rear sway bar.
I noticed a post where someone had made their own.
I sure would like to be able to do this, I have access to stainless and a
bender but I don't know the dimensions.
If anyone has them for a MKIV can they share ?


-----Original Message-----
From: nikolai jaremka [mailto:njaremka@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:53 AM
To: 'spitfires@autox.team.net'
Subject: RE: camber compensator




i found this to be the case with my rear sway bar (it isn't an
addco, however).  i noticed that it is easier to slide the rear
end out, and it's a lot more controllable (sp?) when it does.


--- "Haynes, Mark" <mhaynes@ball.com> wrote:
> 
> Joe- wouldn't the application of a rear anti-sway bar
> accomplish the same
> thing on a swing spring? We put an addco bar on the rear of
> our racer this
> winter, and it has greatly improved the balance of the car
> when put into a
> 'tail-out' situation. i.e. It no longer has the tendancy of
> over responding
> to inputs wwhen the tail starts to swing out, thus making it
> easier to
> control when pushed too hard.
> Mark Haynes
> '65 Spit Racer RMVR #162 (with a Swing Spring)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Joe Curry [SMTP:spitlist@gte.net]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, July 28, 1999 10:46 PM
> > To: david
> > Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net
> > Subject:    Re: camber compensator
> > 
> > 
> > David,
> > There is a description on the URL:
> > http://home1.gte.net/spitlist/cambercompensator.htm
> > 
> > But in short, the function is to prevent (or restrict) the
> tendency of
> > the inside rear wheel to tuck under in a hard turn.  It does
> so by
> > providing a leaf spring attached to the bottom of the
> differential and
> > to the vertical links.  When the loaded wheel is compressed
> it causes
> > the spring leaf to shift and exert downward pressure on the
> unloaded
> > wheel.  This force is below the pivot point of the rear
> trunnion so it
> > is converter to outward pressure causing the wheel to be
> pushed outward,
> > retaining a negative camber attitude instead of tucking
> under.
> > 
> > The nature of the swing spring makes it unsuitable for use
> with the
> > camber compensator, but if a fixed spring is substituted for
> the swing
> > spring and the camber compensator is installed, the result
> is a much
> > more stable rear suspension.  That opinion is shared by Kas
> Kastner who
> > has generously counseled me in the creation of the above
> referenced URL.
> > 
> > Check it out and see if that doesn't answer your questions. 
> I expect to
> > have photos on the URL sometime in the next 1 to 2 weeks. 
> I'm just
> > waiting for the remaining few pieces to be fabricated and it
> will be
> > ready to install.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Joe
> > 
> > david wrote:
> > > 
> > >      How does this camber compensator I keep hearing about
> work? What
> > > does it consist of? Anyone have a picture of it or a
> schematic
> > > representation? How well does it work? Better in
> combination with a
> > > swing spring? Will an early spitfire flip if turned
> quickly in one
> > > direction or more? Or does it just (!) lose rear traction
> and
> > > spin/oversteer? Well, you get the drift of my thoughts.
> Who's got the
> > > lowdown on the rear suspension setup on spits?
> > > 
> > > Thanks,      David
> > 
> > -- 
> > "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
> >  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer
> > 
> 

===
nikolai jaremka
72 spitfire mkIV
east aurora, new york

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